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Old 03-10-2013, 01:16 PM
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Actually its quite a hit and miss subject as not all young coconuts have water in it, as well as not all coconuts with coconut water in it have produced jelly or even started. So i stick by my story. When the outer appearance has turned to an orange hue then you would be right.
LOL ok ... I am simply going by what I gather on this subject by the info given bu the producers of the coconut water
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:15 PM
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Well hey, a lot of these producers don't even give you natural coconut water unfortunately, bc everyone that has grown up around coconut trees n picking and drinking the water knows that no 2 coconuts have water that taste the same, yet producers have consistent tasting water .
I'm soo gonna try soaking in coconut water now; what exactly does it do again?
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Well hey, a lot of these producers don't even give you natural coconut water unfortunately, bc everyone that has grown up around coconut trees n picking and drinking the water knows that no 2 coconuts have water that taste the same, yet producers have consistent tasting water .
I'm soo gonna try soaking in coconut water now; what exactly does it do again?
you really need to read up on it to get the full impact of what its capable of .It can induce roots ,keikis, new leads ... it has many different plant hormones and cytokines in it . I dont know which orchids they refer to but they also say a few react badly to it ...

It is used in many flasking mediums and has been used as a iv fluid substitute as well .

as for consistancy I would venture to say the same thing would apply to anything that is collected from wild type plants that are not actually under controlled farming
conditions and some quality control.

I would say that applies to any agricultural product save corn seed and see if you get a consistent product from planting a crop of open pollinated varieties together for several years and collecting the seed from them to replant the next year ... no fertilizer or irrigation as well ... I dont see you getting a consistent result there either. and I would bet the producers of coconuts for sale commercially do make some effort in these areas.I somehow dont think they just collect coconuts at random from wild groves.

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you really need to read up on it to get the full impact of what its capable of .It can induce roots ,keikis, new leads ... it has many different plant hormones and cytokines in it . I dont know which orchids they refer to but they also say a few react badly to it ...

It is used in many flasking mediums and has been used as a iv fluid substitute as well .

as for consistancy I would venture to say the same thing would apply to anything that is collected from wild type plants that are not actually under controlled farming
conditions and some quality control.

I would say that applies to any agricultural product save corn seed and see if you get a consistent product from planting a crop of open pollinated varieties together for several years and collecting the seed from them to replant the next year ... no fertilizer or irrigation as well ... I dont see you getting a consistent result there either. and I would bet the producers of coconuts for sale commercially do make some effort in these areas.I somehow dont think they just collect coconuts at random from wild groves.
Well you may have misunderstood me, you can get coconuts from the same grove same tree and the taste is not consistent. You would end up wasting much coconut water to find similarly sweet flavored water that's where chemistry comes into play. No matter I'll drink from the coconut itself anyday..I never buy canned. And when they bottle it its the fresh one out here in Jamaica, and it will spoil easily since its all natural, has to be put on fridge.

But this is so cool though! I am so gonna try it with the next set of orchids I repot!
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Well you may have misunderstood me, you can get coconuts from the same grove same tree and the taste is not consistent. You would end up wasting much coconut water to find similarly sweet flavored water that's where chemistry comes into play. No matter I'll drink from the coconut itself anyday..I never buy canned. And when they bottle it its the fresh one out here in Jamaica, and it will spoil easily since its all natural, has to be put on fridge.

But this is so cool though! I am so gonna try it with the next set of orchids I repot!
AND I would do the same if I did not live where the weather is cold and below freezing 3 months out of the year ... and lol If I lived in Jamaica I would have orchids on every tree in the yard and try to avoid potting totaly
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I do! And I have the yard landscaped with semi-terete & terete vandas, and broughtonias, epidendrums, dendrobiums, mokaras, also have a lot potted and hanging that can't take full sun...and a lot mounted too on trees...but I have a ton in greenhouse in pots soo yea, and I can easily bring inside to put on a table or windowsill.
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Hmmm. Nice list. But... I have quadricolor, bowringiana, intermedia, luteola, amethystoglossa, and lodigessii along with hybrids of some of them and they are now putting on roots after growing to maturity. I think it's nice that yours put on roots earlier than mine. No I don't have maxima or aurantiaca nor do I have a skinneri at the moment but had four last year before selling them. Can't recall if they matured first but it doesn't matter. If yours grow roots before flowering that is great. I know what mine are like. You seem to enjoy arguing. That's great too. Enjoy to your hearts content. I just report how my plants grow and try to spend time here to impart as much knowlege, based upon my experience, to anyone who wants to read my offerings to these threads. You want to disagree, be my guest. I still stand by my experience regardless whether you like it or not.
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