Slc. Dream Cloud

[Call_Me_Bob]

i got this one in bud at a plant swap. the blooms are a but blemished but its a healthy plant and pretty compact.



in the pictures there is one bloom fully open and the other one isnt fully opened yet. since the pics one bud has withered ( only lasted 5 days) and the overy and whatnot didnt wither, only the petals and sepals, so im wondering if maybe if got pollinated. its the only plant i have in bloom ATM, so i will know what it is if it i pollinated.



not fully open



improv studio shots. ill get proper ones tomorrow maybe





notice how the flower on the left is cupped slightly and the flower on the left is reflexed. i found that when this plant opens it reflexed strongly then rebound and ends up cupped a bit like on the left

[Baz in Oz]

Help, I suspect your plant may be infected with a virus and quite possibly, your bottle of Corona may be more valuable than the plant.

Baz

[Call_Me_Bob]

What makes you think that?


You can call me Bob

[Call_Me_Bob]

bump.

[catwalker808]

GOOD NEWS! ... BAD NEWS!

First the good news. Your flowers have quite a bit of flaring. Because your flowers are a bit twisted & disfigured, I also thought some of the flares were color breaks. But upon looking more carefully & looking at how the twisting & damage has rearranged the patterning, it looks like the flare patterns are symmetrical (with a vertical line down the middle, the left side is a mirror image of the right side). So the GOOD NEWS is that the flower does not have classic virus color break symptoms. (this doesn't mean it has or doesn't have virus ... just that it doesn't have the symptoms).

Now the BAD NEWS. The flowers are badly damaged (probably chemical or water damage in the bud stage). And you may have mite damage on your old leaves. But these are correctable issues as you grow the plant on. To be safe, I would separate this plant from other plants until you rebloom. if you bloom a proper flower the next time & it happens to have a color break (an irregular, non-symmetrical color pattern) ... well, then toss the plant & drink the Corona.

[Bud]

Why dont you test it for virus? Its only cheap at Ebays...less than $10 uncluding tax and shipping...so your mind is at peace.
but hopefully not a virus...maybe just a mite that niped at the buds or some humidity issues

[ronaldhanko]

Lovely color and very well grown.

[Eyebabe]

Originally Posted by catwalker808

GOOD NEWS! ... BAD NEWS!

First the good news. Your flowers have quite a bit of flaring. Because your flowers are a bit twisted & disfigured, I also thought some of the flares were color breaks. But upon looking more carefully & looking at how the twisting & damage has rearranged the patterning, it looks like the flare patterns are symmetrical (with a vertical line down the middle, the left side is a mirror image of the right side). So the GOOD NEWS is that the flower does not have classic virus color break symptoms. (this doesn't mean it has or doesn't have virus ... just that it doesn't have the symptoms).

Now the BAD NEWS. The flowers are badly damaged (probably chemical or water damage in the bud stage). And you may have mite damage on your old leaves. But these are correctable issues as you grow the plant on. To be safe, I would separate this plant from other plants until you rebloom. if you bloom a proper flower the next time & it happens to have a color break (an irregular, non-symmetrical color pattern) ... well, then toss the plant & drink the Corona.

The coloring does indeed look symetric in all of the pictures except #3 where the petal to our left is more pale and blotched centrally. I would be VERY concerned this could be color break. The crippled look to the actual petals/sepals/lip also is suspicious for viral disease imho.

I agree it should be tested if you plan on keeping the plant in your collection. I would not risk it.

Bob, we are in the same orchid society and I missed the last meeting due to family issues. I should make the Sept 18th meeting and can bring a virus test with me. The tests cost me around $5 a piece. This avoids you having to purchase a lot of 25 which is $125. I also think $10 per test on ebay is highway robber!

Let me know if you want me to bring it np

[Call_Me_Bob]

Originally Posted by catwalker808

GOOD NEWS! ... BAD NEWS!

First the good news. Your flowers have quite a bit of flaring. Because your flowers are a bit twisted & disfigured, I also thought some of the flares were color breaks. But upon looking more carefully & looking at how the twisting & damage has rearranged the patterning, it looks like the flare patterns are symmetrical (with a vertical line down the middle, the left side is a mirror image of the right side). So the GOOD NEWS is that the flower does not have classic virus color break symptoms. (this doesn't mean it has or doesn't have virus ... just that it doesn't have the symptoms).

Now the BAD NEWS. The flowers are badly damaged (probably chemical or water damage in the bud stage). And you may have mite damage on your old leaves. But these are correctable issues as you grow the plant on. To be safe, I would separate this plant from other plants until you rebloom. if you bloom a proper flower the next time & it happens to have a color break (an irregular, non-symmetrical color pattern) ... well, then toss the plant & drink the Corona.

i'd drink the beer, but im 15. haha :P

i definitely think the coloration looks normal, judging by the flowers, i would say that its "clean" the leaves are the only thing that look semi suspicious, but i thought that was just old insect damage or something. when the pictures were taken, they werent as open as they are now.. ill get a new picture, not that they are open the whole way.

the plant only cost me $10. so idk if its even worth testing. but i really dont want to throw it out, especially if im not sure if its diseased or not

Originally Posted by Bud

Why dont you test it for virus? Its only cheap at Ebays...less than $10 uncluding tax and shipping...so your mind is at peace.
but hopefully not a virus...maybe just a mite that niped at the buds or some humidity issues

see above. the plant cost $10. i think the blemished are mechanical

Originally Posted by ronaldhanko

Lovely color and very well grown.

thanks! but it didnt grow it ill pass on the compliments

Originally Posted by Eyebabe

The coloring does indeed look symetric in all of the pictures except #3 where the petal to our left is more pale and blotched centrally. I would be VERY concerned this could be color break. The crippled look to the actual petals/sepals/lip also is suspicious for viral disease imho.

I agree it should be tested if you plan on keeping the plant in your collection. I would not risk it.

Bob, we are in the same orchid society and I missed the last meeting due to family issues. I should make the Sept 18th meeting and can bring a virus test with me. The tests cost me around $5 a piece. This avoids you having to purchase a lot of 25 which is $125. I also think $10 per test on ebay is highway robber!

Let me know if you want me to bring it np

in picture three, the weird coloration is due to unbalanced lighting, i can tell you that for sure.

i have never tested for viruses. i probably should. but im a broke teenager who needs a car. i really cant afford to test all the plants.

that being said, there are other plants i would probably test before this one. so idk what to do. im not sure its worth wasting a test/$5 on this plant. there are others id test first. but then if i test one, i'd want to test all of them. does that make sense?

[Eyebabe]

Bob,

It does make sense to test them all to me.
Tell you what: Bring your plant to the meeting and I will test it for a demonstration.
I have a phal in my kitchen that I bought recently that tested positive for color break and the vendor has not replied to my emails so I will bring that one and show everyone a "positive" test.
And if you have one or two more plants you are concerned about bring those too.
I will bring a total of 5 tests (one for my phal) so you bring 4 plants.
Fortunately, I am no longer a broke student but I once was...
I have no problem doing this for our orchid society and if you agree I will email them to let then know.