Cattleya warneri var. pincelada

[Rosim_in_BR]

Here's a nice feathered warneri. Petals are large, but the general form could be a little more harmonic. This flower is also called var. integra because the purple mark in the lip covers it entirely leaving no pink border, which is a characteristic in the type flowers. Even though this classification (integra) is not recognized, it is commonly used by orchidists here in Brazil to distinguish this kind of flower.

[Bayard]

Nice color form!

[tuvoc]

Very lovely, Mauro.

Kim

[Rosim_in_BR]

Originally Posted by Jan Pahl

Well I whant to ask something about this beauty.

In Brazil is not allowed to mix two not exclusive "varieties" in the same name?...

Let me first explain myself to be fully understood

In Venezuelan horticultural case you can write in a tag things like semialba-delicata because in some cases mixed "varietal" possibilities can coexist in the same flower.... It isn't often used because in expos for judging purpose we only recognize type, coerulea, alba and semialba relegating things like "integra" to floral phenotype individuality that could reflect in more or less judging points (in this case a full colored solid lip will have much more points than the tiny "mosca"), but that is Venezuelan case only.

The horticultural "rule" for more than one coexisting variety in the same flower is first the variety that express overall flower color except if overall flower color is type, them second "if varietal name exist" the linguistic symbol that express of the labelum mark color or shape, and third also "if the varietal name exist" the linguistic symbol that express pleoric to variegated phenotypes on petals/sepals.

In your case using the Brazilian terminology will be Cattleya warneri var. integra-pincelada

The last thing could be accepted among Brazilian collectors????

Among orchidists, here in Brazil, it is common using two, or even three, varietal names co-existing in the same flower, Jan. Some nurseries also adopt this. A friend in the State of Espirito Santo has a warneri which, besides pincelada, has the entire lip of solid purple, including the side lobes. He uses to call it C. warneri integra-orlata-pincelada.
I don't have anything against using more than one varietal name, but I try to use one whenever I feel one of them is horticulturally more significant. In this case, the peloric traits on the petals are more significant (in my opinion) than the lip completely covered by purple (which, in the end, falls within the type variability). Nevertheless, in case the flower has only the solid lip and no other co-existing variation, I see no problem calling it integra, which is the case of another warneri I'm posting soon!
The big problem here in Brazil with epithets like 'integra', 'orlata', marginata or atropurpurea in C. warneri, all of them referring to a particular shape of the purple blotch on the lip, is that there's no consensus among orchidists about what is what. Take the following flower as an example , some call it marginata for its well-defined pink band bordering the mid-lobe. Others say that marginata is the flower which lip has the purple color covering the mid lobe and spreading through the side lobes... but that is atropurpurea for others... well, sleep with all this noise!!

[RosieC]

It's another really gorgeous one Mauro!