Whats The Difference???

[Cattleya17]

I was looking at the parents of Lc. Drumbeat Heritage and they are (Lc Bonanza x C Horace) its also the same for Lc. Trumbeat Triumph. So Whats the difference???

[Brooke]

Hi Samuel - they are the same plant but have been given the Heritage and Triumph additions to their names to identify which plant was awarded.

It should be identified as Sc. Drumbeat 'Heritage' and Sc Drumbeat 'Triumph'. Both of these plants have had multiple awards.

Brooke

[Dorothy]

The difference is the cultivars .. the orchids are identical genetically .. Sc. Drumbeat ..
'Heritage' and 'Triumph' are it's cultivar epithets
To read up more about this - check out this link - Cultivar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Dorothy]

These also give good explanation to orchid naming -
http://www.orchidboard.com/Orchid-naming
Orchid Naming

[Cattleya17]

So the Flowers Will look The Same???

[Royal]

Not exactly, but very similar. Kind of like how identical twins aren't 100% identical. But, in order to be labeled with the cultivar name it must be a meristem clone or vegetative division, meaning the 'Heritage' will be identical to all the other 'Heritage' and all labeled 'Triumph' will also be identical.

[lambelkip]

Originally Posted by Dorothy

The difference is the cultivars .. the orchids are identical genetically .. Sc. Drumbeat ..
'Heritage' and 'Triumph' are it's cultivar epithets
To read up more about this - check out this link - Cultivar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

they are not identical genetically, only about 75%. Drumbeat indicates that they were crossed at the same time, from the same parents. it's like saying they're fraternal twins, identical twins would be 100%

[Royal]

From Wiki:

Monozygotic [identical]twins have nearly identical DNA but differing environmental influences throughout their lives affect which genes are switched on or off. This is called epigenetic modification. A study of 80 pairs of human twins ranging in age from three to 74 showed that the youngest twins have relatively few epigenetic differences. The number of epigenetic differences between MZ twins increases with age. Fifty-year-old twins had over three times the epigenetic difference of three-year-old twins. Twins who had spent their lives apart (such as those adopted by two different sets of parents at birth) had the greatest difference.[13] However, certain characteristics become more alike as twins age, such as IQ and personality.[14][15] This phenomenon illustrates the influence of genetics in many aspects of human characteristics and behaviour.


So, identical twins aren't 100% the same, AND even with the same gend in the same place, different expressions of certain genes can contribute to individual variations.

[Dorothy]

Originally Posted by lambelkip

they are not identical genetically, only about 75%. Drumbeat indicates that they were crossed at the same time, from the same parents. it's like saying they're fraternal twins, identical twins would be 100%

Would it have been better if I stated that the hybrid parents of both orchids are the same despite the different cultivars? (and leave out the genetics) .. I don't wish to be misleading or state anything inaccurately ..

[lambelkip]

Originally Posted by RoyalOrchids

So, identical twins aren't 100% the same, AND even with the same gend in the same place, different expressions of certain genes can contribute to individual variations.

i'm aware of epigenetics, the 75% and 100% figures were just for simplification, and are approximate. they still give you a good idea of what you can expect from siblings vs. clones. epigenetics can even (under certain circumstances) result in genetic mutations, which can be passed on to offspring.

Originally Posted by Dorothy

Would it have been better if I stated that the hybrid parents of both orchids are the same despite the different cultivars? (and leave out the genetics) .. I don't wish to be misleading or state anything inaccurately ..

yes, i think we can all agree that the plants in question are siblings, not clones of each other