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Old 11-11-2023, 11:28 PM
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[QUOTE=Louis_W;1011342]That's makes sense! I've read that they are all breeding 3n but those cultivars being 4n is logical. How did you learn which ones were tested?

Page 383 of this article goes into some of the genetic stuff with cattleya.


I can't seem to open the link! I am not certain which (if any) were actually chromosome counted, and I always want to be sure to state the source of info, since it's very easy for a hypothesis (or speculation) to spread as truth...but Jeff Bradley gave an excellent talk on white cattleyas that is available online on youtube I think - he noted 'Purity' is definitely fertile and therefore 4N.

Courtney Hackney in his book comments on how Clint McDade loved to use 'Honolulu' for breeding, and McDade made the Bob Betts cross with this cultivar (I believe). It sounds that all the remakes others tried were far inferior. (since everyone else tried to use various real mossiae and not 'Snow Queen')

I do not know if 'Rex' has any progeny, there were so many cultivars awarded in rapidfire succession in the 1940s-1950s. I suspect not, since the award for 'Rex' went to McDade and by all accounts he used the unawarded 'Honolulu' (which is still around and fairly obtainable)



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I have noticed little magenta flecks show up in the lip of my C. Earl ‘Imperialis’ as well.
That is fascinating! You are the first person I have found to have seen this, and I have been asking around! Any chance you have a pic?

Earl is Empress Bells (Bow Bells x Edithiae) x General Patton (Bow Bells x Barbara Billingsley) - Barbara Billingsley is a few more generations removed but is still only mossiae, gaskelliana, trianaei (which are the only 3 species in this entire parentage I believe)

I have a piece of Earl 'Imperialis' and have not seen this on my piece (bloomed a couple times)



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Enjoying this discussion! My favorite Bow Bells is 'Purity' FCC/AOS as shown by Jeff Bradley in his Historic White Cattleyas discussion, highly recommended.
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'Purity' is on my wish list! Usually very pricey but one day I will find a more reasonable piece. Or maybe we should get a Bow Bells backbulb trade going!

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Old 11-12-2023, 07:55 AM
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Oops that link goes straight to the article download. Just Google this:

BREEDING CATTLEYA TRIBE ORCHIDS

Starts pretty basic and gets more detailed at the end.

Also I love watching those cattleya conference talks. Both of Jeff Bradley's are great. Roy Tokunaga is great. I keep wanting them to have another conference but it seems very random as to when they do it.

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Beautiful bloom. Thank you all for participating and the vast knowledge.
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