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Old 04-30-2008, 11:49 PM
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I was given an overgrown Brassovola Nodosa today. I'm attaching pictures some side views and top & bottom. There is 1 bud spike on it. It is in a clay pot in there peeking out and old/new roots everywhere. Suggestions??? K-L-N?? I will mount and pot up. This plant needs work.

The first pic is the top, second is bottom then side views.

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Wow. Wowee wow wow. Now that is cool! Good work on scoring that massive plant! If I were you, I would divide up the plant by first claiming the very healthy, happy looking, large clump around the flower spike as your own!! I would then put that clump in a large basket with large wood chips (it works for me, but you probably have your own fav media). I would then chop up the rest in a way that you can keep the clumps of live pseudobulbs together and toss the rest. From the fourth pic, I think I can see 5 clumps that I would use, in addition to your giant, healthy clump. Next, find four or five of your friends who have a plant you want to trade for and go for it! You could probably even get away with not potting the extra clumps when you trade. That will give your friends a chance to pot/mount/whatever as they please. Nodosa's are great plants to try new things with, so people often do!! Do, however, send when you eventually figure out your plan of attack.
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Old 05-01-2008, 09:06 AM
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Thanks Steve.

Any suggestions about using K-L-N when I divide. Should I soak the clumps at that time or let the cut dry first? This guy needs as much as I can give it to jump start it but I don't want to shock it too much. You know what they say about too much of a good thing!

Since there is only 1 spike on the whole thing would you go ahead and divide now or wait? It's really a mess.

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Thanks Steve.

Any suggestions about using K-L-N when I divide. Should I soak the clumps at that time or let the cut dry first? This guy needs as much as I can give it to jump start it but I don't want to shock it too much. You know what they say about too much of a good thing!

Since there is only 1 spike on the whole thing would you go ahead and divide now or wait? It's really a mess.

Lorraine
Ive never used K-L-N, so I cant really advise. For myself, however, I dont think Ive ever needed it! That plant looks healthy enought to be divided without any "extras." I cant tell if there is new growth in the pics or not, but I would divide this guy up when you see new growth. If it just so happens that new growth is occuring with the flower spike, oh well, chop away!! If not, just wait until new growth starts and enjoy the flower.

PS I would give a good soaking the day before you start cutting, then cut the next day, let dry for approx 24 hours and start watering as usual. I would definitely recommend treating each cut with some sort of antifungal chemical. The plant does not look dehydrated IMO, so going for a day or three without water should not pose a problem. These guys are very drought resistant.
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Old 05-01-2008, 03:38 PM
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KLN will give the roots a boost. When you divide the plant, check over the roots. If you are seeing lots (like 25%) of the roots with green tips, don't bother with KLN. If you have KLN on hand, by all means use it. It won't hurt. But don't go out and buy it if you don't need it. Just my 2 cents.
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You are getting some good advice here, but it's always good to have a consensus.

1. That's a very nice, large plant! I know it looks like it's hurting, but it looks more natural than any other one I've seen. It's basically a ceramic mount (that potting media is long since decomposed). That being said, it really would benefit from repotting.

2. I also agree that its fun to divide it up to share/trade, but you want to keep a nice big chunk for yourself. You are in for some LONG and TEDIOUS work ahead of you as these guys get really tangled up. I would try as much as possible to preserve the huge specimen size as best you can too. There will definitely be some chunks that break off or fall off. If you need more divisions than this, look for loose pieces towards the edge to keep the mama big.

3. Pre-soaking will help repotting a lot. A little KLN/ST in the soak wouldn't hurt, but it's not necessary. Is it ever really necessary? Well, that's on another thread.

I'd let the wounds heal too, by drying out. Isurus is right about the drought tolerance.

4. As for the spike, these are winter bloomers, flowering once the water is reduced. This one may be flowering just because it's been kept thirsty. I'd go ahead and repot it anyway. It's always a shock, but these are a very resilient bunch (I'd bet you get tons of flowers around December). In a pot with fresh medium and good water, they'll go crazy. Use you KLN then.

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Old 05-01-2008, 05:07 PM
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I knew I would get some great info. Tomorrow is the day. I'll take pics when I'm done. Already have 1 piece that is going to a new home. I also inherited 2 amethystoglossa overgrown in clay pots and they got it today. Final tally, 3 nice pots, 1 division in my shrub/tree and 2 bare roots going to another home. 3 1/2 hours on those bad boys. I did give them a KLN treatment since the roots had to be torn away (as gently as I could) treated the wounds with cinnamon and hope for the best. Didn't take any before pics but they were a mess too.

I post the pics here later.
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Old 05-02-2008, 01:23 PM
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Here is the update on dividing the wonderful mess.
I took the suggestion to water and did that yesterday. Once it was wet i started to remove the clover that was everywhere. Boy was I surprised when I removed the clover that it's roots were holding the nodosa together. Sides and bottom started to come away from the pot. Halt all operations. This morning as you can see in the 2 pics below it came apart in 6 pieces. Now there are more since cleaning them gave me several smaller pieces of 5/6 psudobulbs. I mounted 2 so far and in a couple days will work some moss into the back. There were no roots growing in the old medium. That thing was everywhere but IN the pot. I still have to decide how to deal with the large section with the spike. Mount...Pot...Mount...Pot
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Thanks for the new photos. They really help make it clear what you are doing. The divisions all look pretty good to me. Good luck with all you are doing.
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Old 05-02-2008, 02:41 PM
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Yeah, you really lucked out with a huge collection. Are you going to trim out some of the backbulbs on those larger sections?
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