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kavanaru 04-28-2008 01:19 PM

hi Bill, the only sure here is that C. mosiae is part of this plant. there also several hybrids with these "less desired" caracteristics of mosiae... ;)

but I have to admit it really looks like the real one for me.

cb977 04-28-2008 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill_NeOh (Post 102909)
Wow, Thanks Ramon and Dorthy. I think you ID it. I really did not have much hope of getting a name for it. But after viewing pics of mossiae var. alba I really thing that is it.

Here is a link to a pic of mossiae var. alba. I can't tell any difference.


Cattleya mossiae var. alba at Santa Barbara Orchid Estate


Thanks again. You guys are great.

:bowing Thank you , Bill :)

Bill_NeOh 04-29-2008 08:54 AM

You're welcome Susanne. I'm farely new to the OB so I've got lots to learn and willing to do so. :thanx:

cb977 04-29-2008 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill_NeOh (Post 103244)
You're welcome Susanne. I'm farely new to the OB so I've got lots to learn and willing to do so. :thanx:

We all learn as we go along :)

jim blanford 04-29-2008 11:43 AM

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Here's one I have blooming now called
C. Carl Hausermann, looks similar it may have C. mossiae in the cross.

Bill_NeOh 04-29-2008 12:16 PM

You could be right. I tried to search the web to see what cross is in C. Carl Hausermann 'Lucy' and could find pretty much nothing. Anyone know?

Dorothy 04-29-2008 12:43 PM

Lineage of Cattleya Carl Hausermann
 
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Wow C. Carl Hausermann has more mossiae in it's background than you can shake a stick at :poke:
It also has these Cattleya species in it's lineage -
besides mossiae - Cattleya mossiae
trianae - Cattleya trianaei
warneri - Cattleya warneri
gaskelliana - Cattleya gaskelliana
Here is C. Bob Betts - http://www.justpatorchids.com/images/C%20BobBetts.jpg
I couldn't find a photo of C. Diane Sato :(
Here is the lineage .. :biggrin:

So who can it be now ? :hmm

kavanaru 04-29-2008 02:29 PM

if you follow the crosses to get Cattleya Carl Hausermann (C. Bob Betts x C. Diane Sato) , you can calculate that it is 3/4 Cattleya mossiae in it.

the parentage includes:
C. Suzanne Hye (C. gaskelliana x C. mossiae)
C. trianae
C. Edithiae (C. Suzanne Hye x trianae)
C. Bow bells (C. Edithiae x C. Suzanne Hye)
C. mossiae
C. Bob Betts (C. Bow Bells x C. mossiae)
C. Intertexta (C. mossiae x C. warneri)
C. Cowaniae (C. mossiae x C. Intertexta)
C. Eucharis (C. mossiae x C. Cowaniae)
C. Irene (C. mossiae x C. Suzanne Hye)
C. Dorothy Phelps (C. Eucharis x C. Irene)
C. White Empress (C. Irene x C. trianae)
C. White Belle (C. mossiae x C. White Empress)
C. Diane Sato (C. Dorothy Phelps x C. White Belle)

kavanaru 04-29-2008 02:35 PM

lol... funny... Dorothy, Why did I not see your post before? it was just not there a couple of minutes ago... weird...

Dorothy 04-29-2008 04:25 PM

;)
The way I wrote out the chart, I noted the generations at the top so you can see C. mossiae's influence as far back as the 1st and very dominant in the 2nd generation ...
I am not sure if the way I set the generations is 'official' but it gives you a idea of how much this species is involved in the lineage of this hybrid)
(Ramon - I had posted the entry but might have still been cleaning it up when you read the thread)


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