Genealogy for Two H&R C. walkeriana Compots

[K-Sci]

I have more Cattleya walkeriana than any other orchid. The compact size of this species is well suited to a small greenhouse such as mine. In about 4 years, I will be retiring, and I’d like to take up breeding orchids again, having dabbled in Phalaenopsis 40 years ago. The best walkeriana I know of are those bred by Harry Akagi of H&R Orchids. Unfortunately, divisions or clones of H&R walkeriana breeders appear to be closely held, so I'm trying to grow my own from two H&R compots.

• Compot #1 (26 plants) - 'Perfect Blush' 4N x 'Tokyo #1' 4N)
• Compot #2 (41 plants) - 'Sakura Snowblush' 4N x 'Perfect Blush' 4N

After doing some searching and reading, I think I can trace all of the plants used in these crosses back to importation in the 1970s, but with one guess. The guess is that "Sakura Snowblush"was produced from the cross (Sakura Snowball x Perfect Blush), as the name suggests. In email, Harry said he thought this was right, but he wanted to check his records.

If I'm correct, these are the walkeriana whose genealogy is of interest.


Based on a lot of searches and reading, the following may complete the picture.

The cross ('Puanani' x 'H&R') produced ‘Sakura Snowball’, 'H&R Supreme' and 'Perfect Blush'.

‘Paunani’, 'H&R', 'Tokyo #1', and 'Ann' AM/AOS were all grown from semi-alba seed from Brazil in the 1970's.

If I am right about the 'Sakura Snowblush' parents, 'Sakura Snowblush' has five siblings pictured in the H&R catalog.



Any information OB members can provide concerning the forgoing lines would be greatly appreciated.

-Keith

[My Green Pets]

i cannot contribute any genealogy info, but would love to request any growing tips you would like to share!

[K-Sci]

Originally Posted by My Green Pets

i cannot contribute any genealogy info, but would love to request any growing tips you would like to share!

Yes. Read this: C walkeriana - Tips for Growing & Blooming

More later.

-Keith

[DirtyCoconuts]

Good luck. I can’t contribute more than that but I am interested in the experiment

[isurus79]

Harry is usually pretty good about answering lineage questions for his walkers!

[K-Sci]

I created this thread hoping there are other walkeriana fanatics on the forum who may know the topic. I'm starting to think there aren't. If nobody has any corrections or comments, I'll email the core details to Harry to see how much I've got right/wrong. Considering the number of years since the 70's, I may have some major gaps/errors. It was pieced together from tidbits found in a lot of posts.

Harry hasn't posted here since Jan 2020, but the posts he made before that contain a lot of valuable information.

-Keith

[isurus79]

Originally Posted by K-Sci

I created this thread hoping there are other walkeriana fanatics on the forum who may know the topic. I'm starting to think here aren't.

I should have been more explicit in my previous post. There really aren't any folks on OB that have a fairly good knowledge of walkeriana lineages. I consider myself fairly up to date on H&R lines, but the lineages become fairly obscured once you get back to Brazil. I've asked Harry about some of those aspects and like I said, he's pretty good about answering!

[Eisland]

Originally Posted by isurus79

I should have been more explicit in my previous post. There really aren't any folks on OB that have a fairly good knowledge of walkeriana lineages. I consider myself fairly up to date on H&R lines, but the lineages become fairly obscured once you get back to Brazil. I've asked Harry about some of those aspects and like I said, he's pretty good about answering!

Stephen, are you looking for lineage of any certain Brazilian ones?

[isurus79]

Originally Posted by Eisland

Stephen, are you looking for lineage of any certain Brazilian ones?

Yes, actually. I know that Estrela da Colina has several famous sibs (you mentioned Dayane Wenzel in another thread). I can't recall the named sibs!

Do you also recall the names of both parents for those famous sibs? I know Orchidglade was one, but was the other named also?

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Originally Posted by Eisland

"Carmela" is obviously from Carmela Orchids in Hawaii and "Gold Country" from GC orchids. Any clues?. Thank you.

Carmela and Gold Country look identical to my eye. I have to assume they're the same plant.

I believe Alan Koch (and many California breeders) were using The Chairman in their breeding programs for a long time. It would be interesting to see if there's a relation between The Chairman and Gold Country.

[thefish1337]

Originally Posted by isurus79

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Carmela and Gold Country look identical to my eye. I have to assume they're the same plant.

that's what I thought too!