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Old 09-11-2020, 02:00 PM
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Bought this as a large seedling from Cal Orchids at the SEPOS show in April 2019. It has grown by leaps & bounds, and is blooming from 2 leads now.

It is quite similar to Caudebec, but somewhat darker and considerably larger. Caudebec 'Linwood' had an 80 mm NS when awarded; the largest flower on this seedling is 98 mm NS.
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These spotted pink orchids are so beautiful. Very NICE!!!!!!!
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The spots and colors make for a winning combination. It looks like it should have some Cattleya amethystoglossa in it (I'm having a hard time seeing the influence from the Catt harrisoniana parent). Are the blooms fragrant?
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I didn't spend a lot of time looking... but it appears C. Caudebec is a name given to progeny of crossing two clones of C. Penny Kuroda? Can anybody provide more information?

Edit: I spent more time looking. C. Caudebec was registered as C. Sophia Martin x C. Penny Kuroda.

But both C. Sophia Martin and C. Penny Kuroda were registered, two years apart, with parents C. Summer Stars X C. guttata. Hybrids are not supposed to be given more than name. C. Penny Kuroda was registered first, so that is the correct name for both C. Sophia Martin and C. Penny Kuroda.

Progeny from crossing two clones of one grex are given the name of the original grex, so C. Caudebec should not have been named. It is a synonym for C. Penny Kuroda, the correct name.

C. Summer Stars = C. Henrietta Japhet x C. Claesiana

C. Henrietta Japhet = C. Eucharis x C. loddigessii

C. Eucharis = C. Cowaniae x C. mossiae

C. Cowaniae = C. Intertexta x C. mossiae

C. Intertexta = C. mossiae x C. warneri

C. Claesiana = C. intermedia x C. loddigessii

So C. Penny Kuroda =
(((((mossiae x warneri) x mossiae) x mossiae) x loddigessii) x (intermedia x loddigesii)) x guttata

and no C. amethystoglossa.
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I think ES was onto it already. At first glance, it would appear that amethystoglossa (very understandably) would be involved. But maybe due to aclandiae or something, which is the surprise. The Penny Kuroda strain (I just say strain for my own laugh, as it keeps reminding me of some odd reason of yakult ---- the 'Shirota' strain of bacteria for the probiotic) is seen in the heritage tree for a lot of the spotted catts.

The name C. Lulu pops up too for some spotted catts heritage (not C. Lulu Land ..... just C. Lulu).


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I am aware that Caudebec is probably an F2 Penny Kuroda. However, there is a theory, that in one of the original registrations, the Summer Stars was possibly something else (name escapes me at the moment, but it was something very similar).

It is of course impossible to run down now, so we have to live with the ambiguity.

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The spots and colors make for a winning combination. It looks like it should have some Cattleya amethystoglossa in it (I'm having a hard time seeing the influence from the Catt harrisoniana parent). Are the blooms fragrant?
Only lightly fragrant. The harrisoniana influence is seen primarily in larger flowers (98 mm NS vs 80 mm), and also somewhat wider petals.
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