Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.
Many perks! <...more...>
![](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/orchid/closer1.gif)
|
![Old](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/orchid/post_old.gif)
08-23-2020, 05:47 PM
|
![estación seca's Avatar](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/avatars/estaci-n-seca?dateline=1454822151) |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2015
Zone: 9b
Location: Phoenix AZ - Lower Sonoran Desert
Posts: 18,234
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by MJG
ES, what do you mean by "flat" flowers? Once again, something you see in a growers description. No clue what it means or why it's desirable.
|
Look up side view photos of Cattleya / Guarianthe aurantiaca. The petals and sepals project forwards from the base of the flower, like a partially closed hand. The look RHS and AOS judges want is the petals and sepals as close to being in a plane as possible. They also want petals and sepals as wide as possible, so the flower appears round, rather than having gaps between flower segments.
This little plant and Sophronitis / Cattleya coccinea contributed the red and orange pigment to Cattleya hybrids. They both have relative flaws: Aurantiaca has small flowers with "poor" form from the perspective of flatness and roundness. Coccinea has wonderful round flower form but a very tiny lip, and the flowers are small. Breeders tackled those problems to give us the hybrids we have today.
|
Post Thanks / Like - 3 Likes
|
|
|
![Old](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/orchid/post_old.gif)
08-23-2020, 06:00 PM
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Australia, North Queensland
Posts: 5,214
|
|
Nice explanation by ES! I used to wonder about the terminology and descriptions in worded form - which is definitely better than nothing.
I think the judging manuals (themselves) should include photographs and diagrams with arrows - clearly showing just what the text description means exactly. The descriptions probably do make sense after a while - but some pics and examples can go a long way toward making things clear - or much more clear ----- the judging manuals that is hehehe.
|
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
|
|
|
![Old](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/orchid/post_old.gif)
08-30-2020, 12:55 PM
|
![Fairorchids's Avatar](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/avatars/fairorchids?dateline=1389480036) |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2013
Zone: 7a
Location: North Plainfield, NJ
Posts: 2,813
|
|
Here is the flower from the 3rd C. Christina Mendoza (couldn't figure out how to add to the first post).
Also a larger flower, somewhat open, but with wider petals. Contrary to the other two, it has little pigment, so the lip is rather pale.
__________________
Kim (Fair Orchids)
Founder of SPCOP (Society to Prevention of Cruelty to Orchid People), with the goal of barring the taxonomists from tinkering with established genera!
I am neither a 'lumper' nor a 'splitter', but I refuse to re-write millions of labels.
|
Post Thanks / Like - 5 Likes
|
|
|
![Old](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/orchid/post_old.gif)
08-30-2020, 07:07 PM
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Victor Harbor Sth Australia
Posts: 859
|
|
Quite a difference between the siblings, but Im sure interest could be found for each bloom 'type'.
|
![Old](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/orchid/post_old.gif)
05-20-2021, 09:19 AM
|
![Fairorchids's Avatar](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/avatars/fairorchids?dateline=1389480036) |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2013
Zone: 7a
Location: North Plainfield, NJ
Posts: 2,813
|
|
And here is yet another Christina Mendoza:
__________________
Kim (Fair Orchids)
Founder of SPCOP (Society to Prevention of Cruelty to Orchid People), with the goal of barring the taxonomists from tinkering with established genera!
I am neither a 'lumper' nor a 'splitter', but I refuse to re-write millions of labels.
|
![Old](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/orchid/post_old.gif)
05-20-2021, 11:52 PM
|
![My Green Pets's Avatar](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/avatars/my-green-pets?dateline=1645896340) |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Colorado
Age: 44
Posts: 2,562
|
|
The most recent might be my favorite but I liked number 3 a lot, too.
|
![Old](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/orchid/post_old.gif)
05-21-2021, 09:45 AM
|
![WaterWitchin's Avatar](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/avatars/waterwitchin?dateline=1361120939) |
Administrator
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2011
Zone: 6a
Location: Kansas
Posts: 5,128
|
|
I'll take the C. Christina Mendoza behind door #1. That's lovely.
__________________
Caveat: Everything suggested is based on my environment and culture. Please adjust accordingly.
|
![Old](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/orchid/post_old.gif)
05-21-2021, 09:54 AM
|
![Fairorchids's Avatar](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/avatars/fairorchids?dateline=1389480036) |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2013
Zone: 7a
Location: North Plainfield, NJ
Posts: 2,813
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterWitchin
I'll take the C. Christina Mendoza behind door #1. That's lovely.
|
My choice too, but unfortunately the weakest grower.
__________________
Kim (Fair Orchids)
Founder of SPCOP (Society to Prevention of Cruelty to Orchid People), with the goal of barring the taxonomists from tinkering with established genera!
I am neither a 'lumper' nor a 'splitter', but I refuse to re-write millions of labels.
|
![Old](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/orchid/post_old.gif)
05-21-2021, 10:20 AM
|
![WaterWitchin's Avatar](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/avatars/waterwitchin?dateline=1361120939) |
Administrator
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2011
Zone: 6a
Location: Kansas
Posts: 5,128
|
|
Sometimes beauty requires sacrifice. ![Big Grin](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/images/smilies/new/biggrin2.gif)
__________________
Caveat: Everything suggested is based on my environment and culture. Please adjust accordingly.
|
![Old](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/orchid/post_old.gif)
05-24-2021, 02:10 PM
|
![Leafmite's Avatar](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/avatars/leafmite?dateline=1695077074) |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2010
Zone: 5b
Location: Ohio
Posts: 10,881
|
|
I really enjoy this thread. Thank you! These are all really pretty. ![Smile](http://www.orchidboard.com/community/images/smilies/new/smile.gif)
__________________
I decorate in green!
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:59 PM.
|