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08-21-2020, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Roberta
While "species" itself can be a bit uncertain (natural hybrids do occur) in general, they follow the botanical definitions. Which can also be the subject of argument.
However, if there is agreement that a particular plant is a "species" and it is crossed with another member of the same species, it is still the species. But, of course there is plenty of natural variation, and some individuals may have aesthetic characteristics that are particularly pleasing to humans (such as flatter flowers, wider petals, etc.)
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Thanks Roberta! Super interesting topic! What gets me (due to my not enough understanding yet) ----- is the question of what's the mechanism behind two species parents producing offspring - where the offspring remain the same species (?). Or are the offspring of two 'species' parents actually hybrids? Hybrids with less variations in characteristics than other 'hybrids' (the ones we know) with much more variations in characterstics (?). |
08-24-2020, 09:44 PM
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first one bloomed this morning.
Curious to see if the petals reflex as the days go on.
no scent yet.
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08-24-2020, 09:53 PM
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Fantastic colour and pattern on that lip Jeff. Very nice!!!!!!!!
Once again, will have to chat to those painters. Some paintwork got stuck to the white portion hehehe. Great effect actually.
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08-24-2020, 10:01 PM
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Amazing!!
What a nice showing
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08-24-2020, 10:28 PM
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Nice one! Fantastic lip color, and very nice form too.
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08-24-2020, 10:41 PM
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Wow, that's a nice one! I've got a request though. Can you take another photo in the morning or evening so we can see the color better?
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08-24-2020, 11:05 PM
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I took a photo just now. Tried using my phone and an actual camera. Sorry - my photography skills are not that great!
The petals seem to be gradually folding back as the day went on.
Last edited by Jeff214; 08-24-2020 at 11:40 PM..
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08-24-2020, 11:09 PM
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Wow, even better! Thanks for doing that!
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08-24-2020, 11:09 PM
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The folding of the petals is characteristic of the species. This one still has broader petals than most.
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08-26-2020, 10:03 PM
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Nearly all open now with an intense sweet rose like perfume.
most of the sepals have a pink blush, but the last four or so blooms have had a distinctly yellow sepal. You can see the last few buds are yellow green. I thought they blasted but they are opening nornally.... Not sure if its cultural or genetic...
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