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Old 09-10-2017, 11:41 AM
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So I think this is the first time in the history of catasetinae intergenic breeding that an intergenic flower has shown signs of sexual dimorphism. Up until now all intergenic hybrids have had perfect (pollen and stamina) floral segments. Even some Fredclarkearas are more than 90% catasetum genetics at this point, and still display perfect flowers. This cross [(catasetum x mormodes) x catasetum] is only 75% catasetum genetics. This means mormodes are much less "stable" than clowesia, which must be the reason that Fdk's stay uniform. These flowers are female, lacking pollen, like their catasetum parents. If you can't tell I'm pretty excited. This group never ceases to amaze me.

Up until now, female flowers have been very drab, and almost indistinguishable between species. Most are flat green and hooded (pouched). As you can see, these are anything but drab. I can't wait to see the males!


The first flowers looked to be "more female" showing perfect floral segments. I tried to pollinate them to see if they would produce viable seed. We'll see


The later flowers looked to be "less female" showing an extra spot for pollen offset on the staminode. Notice the pollen triggers are longer on the side opposite from the extra pollen spot. Still no pollen in the sac


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Awesome!
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Amazing!

Mark Margolis posted a sexually dimorphic complex hybrid on Facebook recently as well. These two instances are the only ones I've seen showing male or female flowers on a plant with perfect flowers in the background. I think Mark's plant was a Clowesetum.
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Amazing!

Mark Margolis posted a sexually dimorphic complex hybrid on Facebook recently as well. These two instances are the only ones I've seen showing male or female flowers on a plant with perfect flowers in the background. I think Mark's plant was a Clowesetum.
Ah yes you are correct sir. Possibly coincidence, I saw the flower spike on Mark's blasted all but one flower. This one blasted about half. So far pollination looks to be unsuccessful
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The last flower bloomed male. Still no pollen
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So strange! Fred Clarke just posted Clo. with male parts in Catasetinae Fever group of FB.
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I saw, I guess this will become the new norm. I wonder when the switch over will happen for the Fdks?
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