Cycnoches ???

[coz2001]

Got this one as a chlorochilon but I think we all can agree its not now that its blooming, so maybe someone has a idea which one we are dealing with here, notice the light spots all over and two tiny dents on the lip, the shape reminds of warscewiczii but not the yellow color, so maybe a hybrid of it who knows.

Here it is.

[Bud]

You have gorgeous blooms. Two spikes at that! Right, it looks like a Cycnoches chlorochilon alright if you look at the color and form and the elongation of the cane compared to pictures on Flickr and IOSPE. How did the tag read?

[euplusia]

Flowers are flat, not reflexed, and I tend to say warscewiczii.
A wonderful plant.

[isurus79]

Yep, I'd say warscewiczii as well. Chlorochilon tends to be more greenish and have petals that "droop" up, almost as though gravity was reversed when the flower was opening up!

[coz2001]

Thanks guys, but isn't warscewiczii more greenish where this is yellow with those strange spots, its only the structure that match.

[euplusia]

You really want to know !?
Within the section Cycnoches or Eucycnoches of the genus Cycnoches there are four similar species in question. George F. Carr has thoroughly researched this topic. He has written a series of articles with a heading : One hundred years of mass confusion.
Among these 4 species Cycnoches lehmanni from Ecuador is excluded by a long nail of the lip base attached rectangular to the base of the column.
Male flowers of Cycnoches chlorochilon from Venezuela are elongated. Look here
Cycnoches chlorochilon - Orchids Wiki
Also the flower on top of Woodstream with the holding hand is chlorochilon
Woodstream Orchids
This leads to my recognition that your plant is not Cycnoches chlorochilon.
Male flowers of Cycnoches ventricosum are reflexed. Gerlachs article depicts Batemans drawing
http://www.orchideen-journal.de/pdf/gerlach.pdf
My understanding is that the plant above is neither Cycnoches ventricosum,
Sunset Valley Orchids is among the worlds leading Catasetinae breeders. Here you find a male Catasetum warscewiczii
Cycnoches Species
Bingo?!

Carr has crossed Cycnoches chlorochilon with warscewiczii. This hybrid is named Cycnoches Mass Confusion. I took this eventuality into consideration. SVO has this hybrid depicted here
Cycnoches Hybrids
I really miss kavanaru here lately. He has such a broad knowledge. Here is his flickr set
Flickriver: kavanaru's photos tagged with cycnoches
And in case you want to contact George Carr
Catasetinae: INTRODUCTION TO THE CATASETINAE
Has this explanation been useful for you?

[coz2001]

Thats very kind of you euplusia to always give so detail answers I really appreciate.
I fell over a picture on Kavanaru flickr page that got my attention, Cycnoches Golden Shower it has many similar characters such as the yellow color, light spots and uneven/wavy lip (hope it make sense), when google Golden shower I know there are lots off different lip shapes but I think its a pretty good guess.
Let me know what you think Thanks again...

[isurus79]

Originally Posted by coz2001

Cycnoches Golden Shower it has many similar characters such as the yellow color, light spots and uneven/wavy lip (hope it make sense), when google Golden shower I know there are lots off different lip shapes but I think its a pretty good guess.
Let me know what you think Thanks again...

Cycnoches Golden Showers tends to have a much more intense yellow coloration than your flower has and this is due to the influence of the herrenhusanum parent. Golden Showers also has a much more narrow lip which is sometimes even deformed looking, also from herrenhusanum (which is a truly stunning species on its own!). Your flower looks like a standard warscewiczii to me.

[euplusia]

I have seen kavanaru's Golden Showers.
As isurus mentioned above, it is a registered hybrid with herrenhusanum, a species of the section Heteranthae. Hence the lip of male flowers looks different. Kavanaru's photo of Golden Shower is Cycnoches warscewiczii in my humble opinion.
But the photos of Cycnoches lehmanni are great. Btw we find both notations lehmanni and lehmannii Rchb. f.

[isurus79]

Originally Posted by euplusia

Kavanaru's photo of Golden Shower is Cycnoches warscewiczii in my humble opinion.