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Old 02-17-2012, 06:19 PM
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1€ is roughly $1.30 right now.
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Catasetinae are not all that common over here, and usually what I see are some species, especially Catasetum pileatum, or hybrids like Oro Verde (which are usually sold for 15-20€). So in that respect I consider the prices to be fair. And the price range I gave is including shipping costs (which is only a few € anyway), so it could be worse.
Oro Verde is not a hybrid it is the clonal name of a specific pileatum. Ctsm pileatum 'Oro Verde' HCC/AOS
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woops! I couldn't remember what it was off the top of my head! Shows you exactly how much I know about these plants...
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Between Chryss, Catasetum-ian, Ramon and myself we will have you a full fledged Catasetinae grower in no time at al. You will constantly ask yourself why you hadn't started sooner.

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AMEN to that !!!
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If I do get addicted to them I have to keep the addiction under wraps until I move. I have a north-east window right now, so completely unsuitable. BUT at work I sit by wall to ceiling south facing windows, so perfect! There's even a shade cloth type screen that automatically comes down when the sun is too strong. I just can't go and line up dozens of plants on the floor, I don't think the cleaning ladies will appreciate it much.
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Maybe hang them ???
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What sort of NPK ratio of time release fert do you mix in?

I think I may have finally picked one out: Clowesia Grace Dunn 'Chadds Ford' AM/AOS
Or maybe Cycnoches Wine Delight J.E.M. FCC/AOS....

I read that Mormodes should be avoided by beginners, but is there a genera easier than others?
Oh! Go with the Clowesia! That's a great variety!

I got my first one last month at my local orchid society. It's in straight sphagnum and the grower recommended fertilizing with general purpose 20-20-20 at every watering.

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Camille, about the Cata. culture, there is also a great serie of articles on the aos website, accessible through this page
You can get the pdf from there, in order to get the 7 articles, you have to change manually the number at the end of the url, from 1 to 7, and you'll get the whole serie

I have a few since a couple of months (number growing fast ). Under fluo light (T5 HO), the dormant pseudobulbs of Clowesia are starting to show some activity. I also have them in small empty clay pots.
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ok, and now it's my turn

I must admit I am a bit in a hurry, so I had not much time to read all the posts... maybe I will repeat some info...

first, my GH was not too cool for S/H (20C minimum is pretty warm...) I still do not know why, but my Catasetinae and most other plants did not like traditional S/H anymore... I say traditional, because I have tried two different variation of it and it works great:

1- use a mix of LECA and bark (50:50 or 30:70) and they will love it! also pure bark works fantastic! I add a spoon of slow release fertilizer opposite to the new growth, before it starts growing and before well before I start watering. Water ONLY after the PB start growing and the roots are about 5 cm long! (don't worry about their dormancy, they will wake up on their own, when it is the best time for them!

2- use a clay pot (plastic also work, but seems to be too light and will fall too easy with the heavy PBs) with a mix of bark/perlite/sphagnum (sometimes I omitted sphagnum) and sit the pot on a tray with ca. 2-3cm water.... when watering, you need to wash the whole pot, because if you are not very careful or have not too high air humidity, you can have salts building up on the pots!, I recommend this method ONLY if you have a really warm place, as the evaporation

---------- Post added at 08:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:51 AM ----------

ok, my iPad went mad :-)
I was saying I would recommend this method, as the evaporation will cool down the roots too much if the place is not very warm!

remember, lots of light, water and fertilizer when growing! that's the key for successful growing of Catasetinae!

keep your finger away from Mormodes! they are great plants, but not the easiest Catasetinae and could be very frustrating! same for Cycnoches, even though they are easier....
best choice would be Catasetum, Clowesia or any of the bi-generic Hybrids.
I know you said you are not impressed by plain pileatum (shame on you!! ) on you! LOL) but trust me, 'Oro Verde' is a great plant to start with, and it is really impressive when in bloom! one of the best Catasetum ever!

Cycnodes Wine Delight can be a bit difficult to bloom in some cases... but normally, Cycnodes ae great plants as well for beginners!

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Between Chryss, Catasetum-ian, Ramon and myself we will have you a full fledged Catasetinae grower in no time at al. You will constantly ask yourself why you hadn't started sooner.


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