Stanhopea tigrina (peloric)

[Frdemetr]

I tried to do a selfing last year and didn't work, let's see this year (maybe it is sterile, due to aberration); the perfume is typical of the species (vanilla / chocolate)

[Paul]

They remind me of squids. LOL (But pretty squids )

[Roy]

This flower isn't peloric, its deformed. There is a big difference.

[Frdemetr]

Hi Roy! Thanks for looking!
The word "Peloric" comes from the Greek "pel ros", which simply means "monstrosity".
In botany, strictly speaking, the term was used to describe the transformation of a zygomorphic flower (bilateral symmetry) in actinomorphic flower (radial symmetry), we can say roughly that the symmetry of the Stan flower "became" radial, then it is possible to use the term "Peloric" in the case (if not in botanical terms, at least as “orchid lovers” term!)

[isurus79]

Are you going to try and breed this again?

[Frdemetr]

Hi Steve! Yes, I'll try again! Wish me luck!

[isurus79]

Good luck!

[Roy]

Originally Posted by Frdemetr

Hi Roy! Thanks for looking!
The word "Peloric" comes from the Greek "pel ros", which simply means "monstrosity".
In botany, strictly speaking, the term was used to describe the transformation of a zygomorphic flower (bilateral symmetry) in actinomorphic flower (radial symmetry), we can say roughly that the symmetry of the Stan flower "became" radial, then it is possible to use the term "Peloric" in the case (if not in botanical terms, at least as “orchid lovers” term!)

Frederico, totally understandable with your explaination, its just that here, we are accoustom to the term 'Peloric' being used when, for example. a Cymbidium flowers and the shape, color and pattern of the labellum occurs in either the petals or sepals. The same can be said for the early C. intermedia v. Aquinii, which in turn has developed thru breeding into the splash petal catts etc. If a flower is presented ( as posted ) on a show bench here, its termed deformed and not judged where as the flower as I described is judged as Peloric.

[s1214215]

Sounds like judging snobbery to me. Sorry, but those petals look like they mimmick the lip, as you stated a peloric cym might. The petals are thicker for sure, but then one would expect that given a Stanhopeas lip is thick.

The difference here is that the petals also are taking the lips downward growth pattern. In Phalaenopsis there are plenty of plant now getting around with similar peloric petals and some have even been awarded.

It is interesting that some orchid fanciers often disparage orchids mutations, and yet these mutations have been used to make many of the hybrids we now take as normal and consider lovely.

Well I am getting off topic here. Frederico, good growing and I would grow one of these. I would try to cross it to a standard Stanhopea and see if the downward petals are corrected.

Brett

[Gwallogwyn]

Here are two more peloric stanhopeas. The first are Doug Pulley's photos of Quirky Queen 'Shooting Star' JC/AOS. The other is of a seedling that resulted from a selfing of that plant - Quirky Queen "Pelle'.