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kavanaru 01-17-2010 03:03 AM

Thanks, Bruno! :)

Bolero 01-17-2010 04:52 AM

Lovely flowering and it's another new one for me to see. Thanks for sharing.

Aceetobe 01-26-2010 02:07 PM

So - the plant I got from Pine Ridge labeled as Mormodes punctata opened up exactly like this one.

The one I got from Pine Ridge labeled Mormodes flactifoxaigneo will open in a couple weeks. Must have been a label mixup on yours, as I'm sure Pine Ridge got these both from Jumbo.

kavanaru 01-26-2010 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Aceetobe (Post 287276)
So - the plant I got from Pine Ridge labeled as Mormodes punctata opened up exactly like this one.

The one I got from Pine Ridge labeled Mormodes flactifoxaigneo will open in a couple weeks. Must have been a label mixup on yours, as I'm sure Pine Ridge got these both from Jumbo.

Actually, the label mixup is apparently coming from Jumbo Orchids... Mormodes flactifoxaigneo does not exist at all... ;) Mormodes igneum and Mormodes flactiflexa are considered to be the same species. I think that probably someone (I said Jumbo, because my plant, as well as those from Pineridge, comes from Jumbo Orchids) was not very sure, or had both names and end up with this... I contacted Pineridge asking for more information about this "species/hybrid" (Mormodes flactifoxaigneo) and their reply was that they bought it from Max and Andy Chen (Jumbo) and treat it like any other Catasetinae... not really answering my question, but letting me know they did not know either what it was...

I have sent pictures to Dr. Salazar (the world authority in Mormodes) and he is who identified this as Mormodes punctata, and provided further information that this species is very close to the Mormodes igneum complex, and that he keeps it as a separate species only based on the form of the lip.

As per labelling plants from Jumbo Orchids... They have great plants, but also a big chaos with the IDs of many of their plants... Many plants still labelled as Catasetum are actually Clowesias or Clowesetum, and some of their Cycnoches are totally misidentified. If you ever order Cycnoches chlorochilon from them, be sure you will actually receive Cycnoches warscewiczii...

Aceetobe 01-26-2010 06:46 PM

What I'm saying is that I received both Mormodes punctata and "Mormodes flactifoxaigneo" from Pine Ridge, and thus from Jumbo.

The thing that I have labeled Mormodes punctata is really punctata.

The thing that I have labeled Mormodes flactifoxaigneo from Jumbo is most likely Mormodes igneum.

So there was a double mixup. #1 Jumbo messed the flactifoxaigneo tag up. #2 somebody swapped punctata for flactifoxaigneo tag on _your_ plant - because the other ones from Jumbo labeled "punctata", really are punctata.

kavanaru 01-29-2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Aceetobe (Post 287343)
#2 somebody swapped punctata for flactifoxaigneo tag on _your_ plant - because the other ones from Jumbo labeled "punctata", really are punctata.

This was Jumbo Orchid again, as the plant came directly from them :)

Aceetobe 01-29-2010 05:39 PM

Out of curiosity, what is the minimum order for Jumbo?

kavanaru 01-29-2010 06:14 PM

if yopu order from them to Europe, you could have an order 400€.. however, you can also order directly from them once or twice per year when one of them come to London and bring plants to their main contact in Europe, or wait every once in a while when they come. You can also contact Water Orchids, who are freuqently in Europe, to bring you plants from Jumbo.

If you are asking for my plant, it was brought directly by Chiaching.

kavanaru 01-29-2010 06:15 PM

but being very honest, I still do not understand the reason of your question...

Aceetobe 01-29-2010 06:25 PM

They don't come to America often - I think last time was the World Orchid Congress. I was wondering because I'd like to buy some plants, and would possibly organize a group order if possible.

:D

I know there plants have some problems, but I'd still like to buy some of the ones I can't get elsewhere.


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