Catasetum kleberianum

[Nataliwind]

Originally Posted by Gena

Catasetum kleberianum is a rare Brazilian species which was described by Pedro Ivo Soares Braga in 1994.

What a wonderful plant, Gena!!! Congratulations!
I am crazy about this waxy lemon yellow lip!!! I bet it smells VERY delicious!

[Bruno De Toni]

Originally Posted by Gena

Bruno, I do have information about this species from Arthur W. Holst. Do you have his book ”The World of Catasetums”?

Yes Gena I have it, but at this moment is in the hands of Jan who is taking a look at the book, by the way very hard to find on this days.

[Bruno De Toni]

Originally Posted by Gena

Steve,
Shirley,
Thank you very much!

BTW, I did change the pictures just to show you very unusual “thing”. Take a look at first picture. Do you see something abnormal there? I’ve never seen it before during all this years.

Also to me is first time to see a cluster of flowers at the end tip of the spike, very unusual.

[Gena]

Kim,
Catwalker,
Natali,
Thank you so very much!

Originally Posted by catwalker808

You have 4 flowers emerging from a single node on the flower spike rather than one per node.

Not really. It is not so well seen, but, actually those buds are coming from the same nodes as flowers do. Altogether there are five fully open flowers and three of them with double blooms from the same nodes.
Catwalker, thank you so much for the explanation of this phenomenon. I have seen it before, but never on Catasetums and this is the reason why I’ve been so surprised!

Originally Posted by Bruno De Toni

Yes Gena I have it, but at this moment is in the hands of Jan who is taking a look at the book, by the way very hard to find on this days.

Bruno, there is quite good info in this book about kleberianum. And, yes, indeed, it is not easy to buy one nowadays. I bought mine in US in antique book shop …..

[Gena]

Originally Posted by Jan Pahl

my question is... does this cluster have some geometry for the observer, for example, fractal like?

Jan, not what I can see. Double flowers, or two flowers from a single node, are last three flowers on the inflorescence. First two flowers are single.

[Gena]

Originally Posted by Jan Pahl

quite strange.... what is your own opinion, it is a cultural flaw, or some strange behaviour oddity on this species???.... I can't see all the details, but if each flower have sheath no mather if more than one flower is born in the same node, well it could be strange but natural at least in theory.

Yes, Jan, I think it is happened due to cultural flaw or something else. Despite it, as you know, first blooming can be quite different. The shown plants is still very small and flowers for the very first time in its life, abnormalities can occur. Quality of the flowers is good and there is nothing wrong there. To say something about natural behaviour characteristic of this particular species I just simply can’t since I do have this plant for the very short time, only slightly more than to years. And it is only single plant I do have of this species.
But I think it would be very interesting to ask someone who had possibility to observe a larger population of Catasetum kleberianum during longer time to get answer on this. Question is really interesting indeed.

[Gena]

Originally Posted by Jan Pahl

I can ask here (Brazilan Catasetinae forum)

http://groups.google.com/group/catas...?lnk=srg&pli=1

if you want, the only thing is I need is your permit to use your photos....

I don't speak portuguese but spanish and portuguese are close and some people there speak english

Of course, Jan, please, use it!
Seriously, it is very interesting matter and it would be very exciting to hear other opinions. And, truly, thank you very much!

[Sandy4453]

[Gena]

Thank you, Jan!

I know this site very well and it is exactly this one I recommended Bruno to take a look to get some information about species (now it works as it should!).
I translated and understood this sentence about inflorescence as "flowers on 2/3 terminal part of erect inflorescence, 11-14 flowers".
And yes, I think it is some kind of abnormalities which occur now. We will see in future how plant will develop and continue behave itself. For me it is a part of the pleasure with orchids to observe them. My tenebrosum, vinaceum and spitzii never behaved like that. That's why from the beginning I wrote about "strange behaviour" of the plant, because I never see it on Catasetums before, neither in this particular group (tenebrosum, vinaceum, spitzii), nor in general.

BTW, here is the link to description (just choose kleberianum) www.orkideas.com.br - O Maior portal de orquídeas do Brasil

And once again, Jan, thank you!