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10-01-2017, 03:31 PM
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I sent back the 55$, by the way. Don't send it again.
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10-01-2017, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by In Situ Orchids
Please see all attached photos of the conversation Catherine and I have had so far and decide for yourself.
The second to last photo is of bare root divisions made yesterday that I offered to send Catherine for free to try and make this right in the best way I know how.
The last photo is of my mother plant before I made divisions of it of which I made more than a dozen and now that I see her plant here in her original post showing it in a 10” basket, I can see that what she purchased was a large chunk that I cut away from my mother plant which because of the rambling growth habit of this orchid, makes it impossible to get a large division that is one single piece. If OPTIMIST and others in this forum do not understand that, then I’m at a loss to explain. Since OPTIMIST would not work with me to try and make this right, I refunded the $55.00 she paid for the orchid. That’s the best I can do under the circumstances.
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Thank you for giving us your side. It is good to know that you are as nice as you sounded in this article: http://www.orchidsanfrancisco.org/wp...Newsletter.pdf . I am glad that there are people like you to introduce others to these amazing orchids. I apologize for anything that I have said that might offend you. It is difficult to know what is happening when only one side of the story is told. I hope you will continue to be a part of our community as we do have some Bulbophyllum fans here
I can understand why there might be a misunderstanding, however. My own Orchid Society actually discourages the growing of multiple divisions of an orchid on one mount or in one pot because, if that orchid is taken for judging and wins an award, then later is discovered not to be a single division, the award can be revoked. It is probably good to notify people that there are multiple divisions in a pot for this reason.
Thank you again for your feedback!
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10-01-2017, 03:48 PM
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I agree, the original listing makes it look like one plant. Anybody growing, and discussing, orchids, for any length of time, would know many people advise repotting all new plants on arrival.
To the vendor: We're not concerned here with how good a grower you are. We're concerned with whether you misrepresented the plant in your listing. By virtue of being a fantastic grower, we all recognize you are a detail-oriented kind of person. A detail-oriented person should be able to give a careful and accurate description of a plant.
We also understand negative reviews affect your business. However, following an unhappy customer onto a discussion board makes me think you are a poor businessman. The tone in which you responded to Optimist, and the way you boasted about your growing abilities, don't make you look good.
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10-01-2017, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafmite
My own Orchid Society actually discourages the growing of multiple divisions of an orchid on one mount or in one pot because, if that orchid is taken for judging and wins an award, then later is discovered not to be a single division, the award can be revoked. It is probably good to notify people that there are multiple divisions in a pot for this reason.
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Exactly. Having a large plant like that is useless if it is a pile of branches. The reason I have large plants is to get into the judging side. I might as well have spent $18.95 dollars on a small 3 lead plant for all the good this will do me.
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10-01-2017, 03:56 PM
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Just as suspected!
So you’ve just proven to me by refunding the $55.00 PayPal refund I sent you last night as well as to anyone who reads this post that as I said in my last email to you, YOU ARE MORE INTERESTED IN BEING ANGRY THAN YOU ARE IN ACTUALLY TRYING TO FIND AN EQUITABLE RESOLUTION.
I’m done trying to reason with a crazy lady!
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10-01-2017, 04:02 PM
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I sent back the 55$, by the way. Don't send it again.
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I think that he seems to have tried to fix the issue. I am sorry that you had to go through this disappointment and that you are upset. That is actually a pretty decent price for this Bulbophyllum. I usually see just a single division for $35-$45 and, if Edgar Stehli of Windswept in Time's orchids are any proof, you will soon have several nice, specimen-sized orchids. Good luck and do try to enjoy the orchid(s). I am sure that, soon, you will proudly have one to take to an orchid show.
I have never seen this one from an actual vendor for $18 but some of the people at our OS might sell divisions at our plant sale for this. I will need to take a look at our next one. I know some members have the orchid as I have seen them brought into shows! I have not gotten one as they are a little too large (I collect the miniature Bulbos). It is gorgeous, though.
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10-01-2017, 04:10 PM
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Thanks for your take on this leafmite. I am not buying anything using ebay again. I did not give him a bad rating, and I gave him back his money.
I will probably donate the rest of the pieces to the orchid project in Utah.
I want him to take down any identifying information (name, phone number etc.) from those pictures he posted. I would like to have a moderator remove those pictures because they might have too much information on them.
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10-01-2017, 04:12 PM
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If you belong to an OS or have one nearby, you could let them auction the extra pieces to help raise money for their society.
Now, just enjoy the orchid. It is a lovely one and it will bloom one of these days.
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10-01-2017, 04:57 PM
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A post in this thread was reported to the moderators, with good reason. Name calling and aggressive posts are not tolerated on Orchidboard. If there are issues between seller and vendor (and it does not matter who is right or wrong), please settle it in private, away from OB.
There was nothing wrong with this thread until the "he said she said" started. We are one of the few forums where we allow people to post feedback, including negative, about a vendor, providing it stays factual and polite.
To the vendor; I think the the fact that you joined OB specifically to be unpleasant affects the reputation of a business more so than any negative feedback- whether that feedback was accurate or not.
Optimist, I agree that the screenshots of ebay/email conversations contain way too much personal information, they should never have been posted here. I will remove them from the post.
If there is any more name calling, or feelings getting hurt, this thread will be locked.
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10-01-2017, 10:33 PM
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