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03-24-2018, 11:50 AM
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repot shock?
So I am wondering if this is normal for an orchid to have all these yellow leaves and for the pseudo bulbs to look this wrinkly after a re-pot.
Here is some basic info on this plant.
I got it at a discount because it was kind of beat up and had already flowered. The medium it came in was spag moss that looked kind of slimy on top. Therefore, I repotted it within a week of purchasing it. I put it a bark /spag mix and it was repotted on 3/16/18. During the repot there was a lot of rotted roots so I removed them and the old spag moss. It was quite difficult to get all the old medium out of the roots so I am not sure if I was too rough with it.
Since then it has been in a NW window with sheer curtain with some of my other house plants. It is closest to the window but I have been thinking of moving it. I didn’t want to shock it too much since it is in a new environment, I repotted it and during the repot it lost some roots.
I have been watering about twice a week since it is in mostly bark. Also it is in a clear plastic pot with side slots inside of decorative pot. I have fertilized it once about a week after the repot with hausermanns that they make which is 8-4-8. It is Degarmoara Pluto's Drummer Pacific Pink.
Should I just keep doing what I am doing and wait for it to bounce back or should I make a change in its environment now? I have a sharry baby in one of my west windows without any curtains and it seems to have adjusted great to my environment. It is a new purchase as well but it was in perfect shape when I bought it so it started off much better than this one. It has not been repotted yet at this point but I was thinking of moving this one to the same window for it to get more sun.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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03-24-2018, 12:55 PM
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This one requires a winter rest. Now that it is rootless, I am not sure. The main cause of death is watering too much in the winter. Here:
http://waggaorchidsociety.org/wp-con...id-Growing.pdf
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03-24-2018, 01:30 PM
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Thanks for the link. It did have good roots left so it is not rootless. I only trimmed the black ones and got all the spag moss off that was practically glued to it. If I had to estimate it lost maybe 30% of its roots.
The link does say low light so it is probably good where I have it now I am assuming.
Also it is basically spring here now so I would think the winter rest would be over at this point. The days are definitely getting longer.
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03-24-2018, 01:38 PM
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I think I see a new growth starting. (Little point near the base of front pseudobulb) I think the plant will be fine - the new growth will put down new roots, and in the meantime it will live off the existing pseudobulbs. (They'll get thinner and flatter and eventually shrivel, but by that time it will be well on its way with new ones)
I doubt that it needs a winter rest - looks to me like it is in the Oncidium group, and those like moisture. But with new growth starting, you don't want to let it get completely dry.
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03-24-2018, 03:23 PM
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I sure hope so. I don't see any new growth yet though. I only see a small pseudo bulb in the front but it looks really beat up and only has one leaf on top. It looks like a small piece is broke off of it on the edge. The small one is just as wrinkly as the big ones.
I think I read somewhere that not to worry if the plant sheds the side leaves of the bulbs but if the top ones start having issues then there is a problem.
I noticed these plants are also called beallara sometimes so yes they are part of the oncidium family. The link describes the winter rest as basically growth slows down and you should water less which is true of almost any plant.
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03-24-2018, 03:36 PM
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Eventually the top leaves get dropped too... if it is short on roots, sooner rather than later. My usual mantra.... "Patience..." Orchids don't do anything fast, noticeable progress is measured in months not days or weeks.
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03-24-2018, 07:48 PM
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No winter rest is needed for an Onciidinae intergeneric like that.
Back to the original question, transplant "shock" is a matter of degree. Assuming the roots have not been severely damaged by mistreatment before repotting, we have to understand that roots "tailor" themselves on a cellular level to function optimally in the environment in which they grow. Once grown they cannot change. So...move the roots into a different environment, and they will no long be optimal, so will slowly fail.
That is why it is important to repot plants just as new roots are emerging from the base of the plant. If the current medium is so bad though, you really have no choice but to repot, or risk losing the plant, so you'll have to baby it a bit, and maybe apply root growth stimulants, until that happens.
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03-26-2018, 11:52 AM
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It looks like it needs more water to me. I can't put my Onc. types in bark that large because they dry way to fast.
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