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Old 07-11-2017, 11:12 AM
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Hello, Roberta and snowflake.

My humidity.
During summer it stays pretty high, not as high as NOLA. I thought the whole state was considered subtropical, I definitely could be wrong about that.

My temps.
We always get a few night time temperatures below 32*F during peak winter season. Every year I recall scrambling to protect outside spigots for those few days out of the year.
I wouldn't mind bringing it in, if thats an option.
I'm mostly worried about the heat. It stays well above 90 for 4 months out of the year. It hits 100+ about as many times as it drops below 32.
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Hello, Roberta and snowflake.


I wouldn't mind bringing it in, if thats an option.
I'm mostly worried about the heat. It stays well above 90 for 4 months out of the year. It hits 100+ about as many times as it drops below 32.
If you select a cold-tolerant Vanda, bring it in when temps are expected to go much below 40 deg F. Cymbidium and L. anceps can handle frost with no problem, but that's pushing it for most other orchids. If the Vanda is not so cold-tolerant, set your "threshold" accordingly. Don't worry about the heat - just water more. You have humidity on your side. Remember, these are tropical plants. If you protect them from direct sun (so that hot spots don't burn leaves) heat is not an issue. The cold-tolerant Vandas don't require cold, but the can put up with it. Also - if it is cold, keeping it dry can be very helpful.
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Old 07-11-2017, 11:58 AM
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Also - if it is cold, keeping it dry can be very helpful.
Humidity drops during cold season, so that's a plus.

Thank y'all for telling me about sun burns. I need to read up on that some more. The outdoor roller shades I keep finding are all 85%+ UV blocking. I can't seem to find 40-50% UV blocking in a roller shade.

There seems to be a few online nurseries in Florida that carry Vandas. Can anyone recommend a nursery who is responsive and would help me pick something out from their stock?
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There seems to be a few online nurseries in Florida that carry Vandas. Can anyone recommend a nursery who is responsive and would help me pick something out from their stock?
Either Motes, or RF Orchids are excellent. However if you want something that can take cold as well as heat, consider Santa Barbara Orchid Estate in California Santa Barbara Orchid Estate Home Page . They have done a lot of breeding with the cold-tolerant Vandas (V. Paki is one of theirs, I think, and they have also continued to hybridize with that one.)

Also, for temperature range tolerance, consider anything that has Neofinetia falcata in it (Neostylis, Ascofinetia, etc) Again, heat is not a problem for any of these, and the cold tolerance means that you have a lot less to worry about in winter if you're growing (mostlly) outside.

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Hey SaraJean from NOLA, I'm a bit south of Shreveport.

Does the water need to be extra clean, too? Like, does tap need to aerate? Is it okay to use rainwater, mine is always dirt tinged.
Im up in Shreveport frequently for work
My vandas, and all of my other orchids, get rain water all of the time since they are all grown outdoors either under my palm trees or under a shade cloth. I'm not sure about your water quality up in Shreveport, but in New Orleans, it is poo. High tds+ high chlorination (hello brain eating amoebas!!)+ some of my sensitive orchids= a dead root extravaganza... so I use reverse osmosis water when we are not getting daily rain. I am not sure how sensitive vandas are to any of these, though. I wouldn't imagine that are with their fertilizer requirements but hopefully someone else can chime in.


Also, to protect this guy from burns- I found that a semi sheer curtain did just fine. I tacked one to the bottom of my balcony and eventually removed it, my mature Vanda Pachara Delight can now handle sun from about 10-3:30. It was mentioned earlier in the thread but bears repeating, just do it slowly and error on the side of caution. They have to get readjusted to being out in the sun so every few days move it a bit closer and give it more light each time. Morning light is best to keep leaf burns at bay, otherwise a little curtain or shade cloth should be just fine
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Start with something really easy for you.

In your summer heat and humidity, you can grow some Vandas well. I would stick with the warm growing ones and bring them in for the winter. They do need to get their roots completely wet every single day. In your humidity one watering in the morning is probably enough, unless it's a hot day and the wind is blowing. They also need a lot more fertilizer than most orchids to bloom well. You can find a lot of cultural information on them at Motes Orchids. It is better not to let most of them get below 55 degrees. The ones other people mentioned that take cooler winters don't do well with hot, humid summers like yours. Some blue Vandas don't like hot weather much.

Related to Vanda, and growing similarly, are Rhynchostylis. They are more succulent than Vandas, and you don't have to water them every day. They have flower clusters like foxtails and a spicy fragrance.

Other Vanda relatives you can grow bare-root are Aerides, Arachnis and the bigger Renantheras. Aerides do better with some shade. The other two should be able to adapt to your sun.

You can also grow Brassavola nodosa hanging bare-root. It grows to make a big clump. It has night-fragrant flowers all summer and should do great for you. Bring it in on the cold nights. I bet you have mostly warmish winter days. There are a lot of hybrids made with this such as Bl. Yellow Bird that are also easy to grow bare-root in a warm, humid climate.

There is a group of miniature to small plants from the Caribbean called Tolumnias. You can grow them like your Tillandsias, dangling from some fishing line if you water them every day. They should be pretty easy for you. They clump and make a nice cluster with time. Hausermann's has some now. Go there and enter Tolumnia in the search box.


If you are willing to grow in a pot, there are a number of plants that will grow very easily for you:

Cyrtopodium species just love hot humid summers. There is one native to Florida, and a lot all the way into South America. They get very big and have huge clusters of yellow or yellow-brown spotted blooms.

Related to Cyrtopodium are Grammatophyllum. They just love hot and humid weather. Just let them get dryish between waterings. They also have clouds of huge yellow and/or brown spotted flowers. Some are very large plants, and some medium.

Related to the above 2 is Ansellia africana. It grows tall stems and has clusters of yellow or yellow and brown spotted flowers in the summer. It is very easy to grow in hot, humid weather.

Eulophia petersii is a very easy to grow orchid. It tolerates Phoenix temperatures (up to 120 F / 49C) outside without trouble. It might take your full sun, or dappled shade.

There are warm-growing Cymbidiums becoming available in the US. Most of the ones grown in California need cool late summer nights to set flowers, but the warm-growing ones don't.

Your heat and humidity will also be good for Catasetum and their relatives. (Often the group is called Catasetinae. Some genera to look at are Catasetum, Cycnoches, Mormodes, Stanhopea) Many of these have dangling flower spikes, so people often grow them in hanging baskets. A good place to find these, as well as growing information, is at Sunset Valley Orchids. These orchids go dormant in the winter and don't need water then. You can just set them on a windowsill and forget about them until next spring.

By the way, you don't have to keep parts of your Tillandsias dry. Dunk them, then shake out all the water. They were made to catch dew in the bulbs at the bases of the leaves. Do you have Spanish moss growing near you? That is Tillandsia usneoides.
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