Orchiata

[richardb]

Here in the UK we have a single importer and at £27 per bag the stuff is just not economic for me with +/- 800 plants. Seems like people just follow because it is the latest big idea. A bit like the kings New Clothes, but I have not yet seen long term advantages . Yes, plants grow well when repotted, but they do that anyway in any standard bark mix, and I certainly would not like to leave my plans in the same pot for several years.

[Orchid Whisperer]

Someone gave me some orchiata to try, and of the characteristics it is known for (chiefly slow break down), my sample lived up to the reputation. It is a quality bark.

However, for most of my plants (Cattleyas and Phals, with a few others), they grow just fine in much cheaper bark (approx $5/8 qt bag), outgrowing the pot before the bark decomposes. For this reason, I agree with richardb - not the economical choice for the plants I grow.

[chulaorchids]

I have repotted cattleyas, phalaenopsis, and catesetums after 3 years and the bark shows no signs of decay. I repotted in larger pots without tearing up any roots and the plants still look good, growing well. I do notice a good tendency of the roots to easily penetrate down into the mix rather than skip across the top and over the edge. I used medium sized bark and nothing else.

[dounoharm]

I still like my homemade fir bark mixes....been using them for near 40 years now, and I don't have a problem with decomposition....the used media works quite well in my garden, so I really cant complain....some vandas, which I don't like to mess with repotting, I use straight large charcoal....my personal opinion...

[richardb]

I agree with Dounoharm. One of the first rules of orchid growing is if you have something which works for you, don't just follow the crowd and change. I have heard of people growing in gravel, seramis, and even wine corks.

[chulaorchids]

Ya, that's true. I made a statement in an orchid talk I gave on potting mixes long time ago that I that orchids would grow in broken glass provided you learn how to water them right. An attendee to the talk brought me a bucket of broken glass (his daughter had trashed the patio door) and said try it. I grew L. anceps in it and it did fine. Took more water than normal. pictures from years ago

[chulaorchids]

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[Roberta]

Originally Posted by chulaorchids

Ya, that's true. I made a statement in an orchid talk I gave on potting mixes long time ago that I that orchids would grow in broken glass provided you learn how to water them right. An attendee to the talk brought me a bucket of broken glass (his daughter had trashed the patio door) and said try it. I grew L. anceps in it and it did fine. Took more water than normal. pictures from years ago

Especially some orchids... L. anceps in a pot grows gradually, then hits the edge of the pot and takes off, a clear indication that it did not want to be in a pot I like the broken glass idea as a substitute for a mount... control the plant without its noticing that it is confined, more surface for moisture to hang around than just going bare.

[Ray]

Roberta, I think your assessment is actually backwards.

Plants want mechanical stability. Placing them in a loose, easy to move medium, and it's anything but. Once the plant reaches the edge of the pot, its roots can solidly "grab" onto something that gives that stability, and boom!

[Roberta]

Originally Posted by Ray

Roberta, I think your assessment is actually backwards.

Plants want mechanical stability. Placing them in a loose, easy to move medium, and it's anything but. Once the plant reaches the edge of the pot, its roots can solidly "grab" onto something that gives that stability, and boom!

I just know that L. anceps grows for me much better mounted, or in a basket with minimal media (essentially, a 3-dimensional mount) It certainly needs stability so that new root tips don't get damanged - tied to a mount, or to the sides of the basket. But is as a very strong epiphyte, and grows best as it escapes any media that may be around. When I have had these in pots, the part in the pot tends not to survive - becomes rootless, leafless backbulbs quickly. The "free" part thrives and prospers. And I live i a rather dry climate.