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10-04-2015, 06:18 AM
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I'm against using pesticides just preventive. Bayer 3 in1 is lethal for birds and probably bees.
Why are you so afraid of some little bugs ?
A flush in the sink will wash most of them away.
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10-04-2015, 12:12 PM
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The roaches were the big scare for me. Once in your home they multiply quickly and an infestation can be nearly impossible to eradicate.
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10-04-2015, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Tschimm
I'm against using pesticides just preventive. Bayer 3 in1 is lethal for birds and probably bees.
Why are you so afraid of some little bugs ?
A flush in the sink will wash most of them away.
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I agree with you, but you will get short shrift from many on this Board who don't/can't/won't accept that Europe is far ahead of the USA when it comes to protecting the environment and don't find it ironic that Bayer can reformulate its products for Europe/Rest of the World but not the USA. Its easy for big money to influence regulations in the USA, not so easy in Europe with many states.
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10-04-2015, 12:40 PM
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It's quite cold here in Italy this autumn so everything is in but cimbydium, oncidium and sedirea japonica. When it's sunny and hot I bring out my dend spectabile because it needs hot and sun and at the moment we're having warmer temps outdoor than indoor.
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10-04-2015, 12:46 PM
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... does anyone NOT do some kind of treatment before they bring them in?
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I don't but then I get a lot of those jumping spiders for a few months after. Most were hanging under trees/shrubs so more difficult for pillbugs etc to get to them.
I did spray my zygo seedlings with a neem oil/sucrashield mix because these were in trays on my deck.
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10-04-2015, 12:54 PM
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I don't spray before bringing plants in. We have such nice winter weather, the house is open to the outside most days anyway. I don't like spraying chemicals, because it's just about impossible to keep them off me. Most of my pest treatment is isopropyl alcohol or soap spraying, along with soapy soaks. I have very little fungus problem, fortunately, in the dry air.
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10-04-2015, 02:26 PM
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Pesticides are always going to cause some debate. I have fruit trees and, believe me, if there was a safer product than Malathion that actually worked, I would use it. Unfortunately, I haven't found it. I do understand the problems caused by over/improper use (resistance, the destruction of beneficial insects, cancer, harm to the environment, etc.) but if you do not spray the trees, not only do you not get fruit, you often lose the tree.
I no longer use the Bayer granular product but I did always use it just before bringing the plants into the home so as to avoid issues with beneficial insects.
I do prefer to go the organic route with my houseplants. This spring, after having trouble with mites, I bought lacewing larva. Between them and our guest predator mites and ladybugs who dropped in for a visit, the leaves look really good. (Still, I would have liked to have hit the houseplants just once with Malathion to make certain. However, I didn't.)
I use soapy water, olive oil (then washing it off with soapy water), and Isopropyl alcohol and cotton balls/spray bottle to battle issues with my houseplants.
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10-04-2015, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafmite
Pesticides are always going to cause some debate. I have fruit trees and, believe me, if there was a safer product than Malathion that actually worked, I would use it. Unfortunately, I haven't found it. I do understand the problems caused by over/improper use (resistance, the destruction of beneficial insects, cancer, harm to the environment, etc.) but if you do not spray the trees, not only do you not get fruit, you often lose the tree.
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and there you have it in a nutshell. If there were an organic treatment that really worked, I'd use it. However, if I didn't use pesticides and fungicides regularly, then I might just as well turn my garden over to the weeds.
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10-04-2015, 08:49 PM
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Instead of bringing my plants in, I am taking them back out. The temps are finally moderate enough (in the upper 70's) so they don't burn. It also gives me a chance to get their space ready for the cold season. It needs some planning and adjusting because I could not control myself and went on an orchid binge during the summer.
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10-04-2015, 09:07 PM
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Quote:
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...temps are finally moderate enough... so they don't burn.
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Ha! I feel yer paaaiiiinnnn. Still too hot here for delicate little things to go outside.
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