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Old 09-16-2015, 05:33 PM
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Hi there,

I've just acquired a Kingidium minus


Potting hints? It's a tiny plant, but that's to be expected yes?
I suspect these are also prime candidates for Mounting?

I see another post on the forum (it won't let me post a link) where one seems to be in a mix of Bark, Sphag. and LECA beads?

I can't really tell what the media is from the photo, as it concentrates on the beautiful flower!

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Old 09-17-2015, 04:08 AM
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Nobody is answering. I've never grown this so I'm answering based on what I've read. There are a lot of British on this forum so I hope they add something better than what I can write.

Look it up on orchidspecies.com as Phalaenopsis minus. Hot to warm growing miniature leafless epiphyte with what I think are amazing flowers. Adult plants have no leaves.

I would mount it because leafless orchids photosynthesize with their roots, so the roots must be exposed to light. Do not put it in a pot. Soak it for an hour in rain or reverse osmosis water so it is as flexible as possible. Attach it to a mount, disturbing roots as little as possible. If you use sphagnum moss with the mount, put the roots on top of the moss and not under the moss. Grow it in a very humid spot. Water it daily with very pure water - rain water or reverse osmosis. A little brighter than full shade - you should see a slight shadow if you put your hand over the plant.
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Old 09-17-2015, 05:36 AM
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I grow mine mounted without moss, in intermediate temps, moderate light and watered daily.

It has grown vigerously though I don't think Ihave it's culture quite right as in the two years I've had it it's tried to flower six times but blasted on every attempt.

I've never heard that they lose their leaves as adults before!? Can't find any images showing them leafless either.

I agree the flowers look wonderful, if only I could experience them first hand!
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Old 09-17-2015, 09:13 AM
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They can and do drop their leaves. Sometime they'll hold on to one or two and sometimes they'll drop them all. It's not the easiest species to grow. I have a friend who is an expert phal grower (w/many awards!) and she has had trouble w/this species too.

If it does drop all it's leaves and there are no active root tips then you want to be super careful w/the watering or you'll lose it. (ask me how I know THIS!)

I grow mine (3rd and final try w/this species!) mounted w/just a teeny amount of moss that holds next to nothing of moisture.

I water it heavily in the summer months and I grow it brighter than some of my other phals but no direct sun. Less than anything that has gigantea in it but more than some of my others. Bright shade - my light meter says the highest is 1500 fc.

In the winter I have it sitting on one of the warmer areas of my space - again slightly brighter than my other phals but no where near catt light in this spot.

This is my 3rd attempt and I've kept this one alive for more than a year now and I've even managed to bloom it this past spring. Last winter I lost a couple of leaves but still had 1 so I continued to water in the winter. When the roots tips stopped growing I reduced the watering to lightly spraying 2-3x a week until they started growing again in late winter. Once the root tips reactivated I upped the watering to daily. I also got 2 new leaves this year (giving me a total of 3) but already it looks like it might lose one of them so I'm pretty certain it's just a natural part of what this plant does. My guess is that it would be rare to see one w/more than 3 or 4 leaves.

Side note - when mine went into "rest" mode last year it sat there doing nothing for about 5 months and if not for that lone leaf I would've thought I killed it. Hell, I wasn't sure I hadn't killed it even w/the leaf...until I saw those root tips come alive. Shortly after I saw the itty bitty spike and, no lie, happy dance.

There are likely more experienced growers of this species but I thought I'd throw my success and failure info out there.

BTW - the accepted name is - finleyi
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I also grow it and I've never had it drop the leaves in winter but if it gets too cold, that might trigger the loss.

The one thing I do know is it doesn't like to go very long without water, even growing it in a g/h. I DO put the small amount of moss over the roots to help keep the roots moist longer and water it daily. With age the roots will wander out of the moss.

I give it typical Phal light and my temps are never below 60 or above 88.

Phal minus LUR_4498 by Jim Lurton, on Flickr

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Beautiful!
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Old 09-19-2015, 04:39 PM
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Phal minus LUR_4498 by Jim Lurton, on Flickr

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And...there goes my guess at it being rare to see one w/more than 3 or 4 leaves. Awesome plant, Brooke!!

Looks like I should up my watering a bit more and maybe add a bit of moss...then, perhaps, I'll be able to hang onto to more leaves. Thanks for posting that info!
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And...there goes my guess at it being rare to see one w/more than 3 or 4 leaves. Awesome plant, Brooke!!

Looks like I should up my watering a bit more and maybe add a bit of moss...then, perhaps, I'll be able to hang onto to more leaves. Thanks for posting that info!

I learned the hard way about it drying out. I had the flu a couple of years ago in the middle of winter. I didn't go to the g/h for three days because the skies were always gray and I thought every mount would be fine. This species hated that approach.

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Should a hybrid be in the stars for you,try Phal. Donna's Delight(equestris v. alba x finleyi). Have mine potted in sm. bark and moss giving the usual phal conditions. No leaf loss either.
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Just thought, should post my mounted pic, for completeness.

Here she is, looking like a spider on the side of a terracotta vase:


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