GNATS Nature's Way Caterpillar Killer - Dipel INGREDIENT (Bacillus thuringiensis)

[Abel-Purete]

Originally Posted by Mandy2705

I can't find any here in Colorado Springs, but I have only been looking for about 6 months. There is one person who has a carnivorous greenhouse here but he won't have an open house until the 23 of May. Hopefully I can purchase a few, then propagate thru leaf cuttings

I know exactly what you mean. South Jersey doesn't really have any nurseries; everything else is far or highly expensive online. I hope you find it soon.

[orchidsarefun]

you should ask at your local orchid society meeting or send them an e-mail. Someone might have them.
I don't give my butterworts any special care. I grow them under lights and on windowsills with no problem. I water very infrequently with tap water - though its Lake Michigan water. I sold off my stock of propagated plants @ $5 in February at our show. Others were @ $10, half the size....and I had plenty of people ask if I give them fertiliser ! ( I don't ). You shouldn't pay anymore than $10 for the common garden variety which is all you need.
A photo of some of them at the time...under lights

[Subrosa]

I've said it before. TerraForums. There are usually multiple giveaways going on at any one time. Now personally I require potential winners of my plants to be contributing members of the forum, but not everyone is so strict.

[Subrosa]

Originally Posted by orchidsarefun

you should ask at your local orchid society meeting or send them an e-mail. Someone might have them.
I don't give my butterworts any special care. I grow them under lights and on windowsills with no problem. I water very infrequently with tap water - though its Lake Michigan water. I sold off my stock of propagated plants @ $5 in February at our show. Others were @ $10, half the size....and I had plenty of people ask if I give them fertiliser ! ( I don't ). You shouldn't pay anymore than $10 for the common garden variety which is all you need.
A photo of some of them at the time...under lights

Failing to respect the seasonality of most Pings isn't going to kill the plant immediately. It really comes down to one's definition of "long term". Easier species will tolerate it for a few seasons, but it will catch up with you.

[tily]

THANK YOU TO ALL THAT REPLIED SOME GOOD ADVICE
I DONT THINK I CAN GET THE BUTTERWORT CARN PLANT BUT OTHERS MIGHT BE AVAILABLE ..SINCE I AM FROM AU YOU GUYS ARE FROM THE USA..
CHEERS

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Hi Subrosa thanks for your help
what species of Butterwort do you have i would like to get some seeds there is a few out there different species what size and flower does your plant have i do like your plant for indoors how long does it take to mature and what size does it get ..
thanks

[Subrosa]

Originally Posted by tily

THANK YOU TO ALL THAT REPLIED SOME GOOD ADVICE
I DONT THINK I CAN GET THE BUTTERWORT CARN PLANT BUT OTHERS MIGHT BE AVAILABLE ..SINCE I AM FROM AU YOU GUYS ARE FROM THE USA..
CHEERS

---------- Post added at 08:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:23 AM ----------

Hi Subrosa thanks for your help
what species of Butterwort do you have i would like to get some seeds there is a few out there different species what size and flower does your plant have i do like your plant for indoors how long does it take to mature and what size does it get ..
thanks

You're not just in Australia, you're in carnivorous plant heaven! The species of cp I would most recommend for gnat control is one of the Pygmy Drosera, Drosera roseana. It's native for you. Super easy care, and really beautiful. You have a wonderful resource for carnivores and some of your native terrestrial orchids in Allen Lowrie. You DEFINITELY need to look him up!

[tily]

Hi Subrosa
Lucky me hey carn land lol
I did order some carn seeds early april from oz and plan to plant the seeds this weekend although wanted to buy the butterwort to no avail I will also take your advice and order the pygmy Droesara, Roseana seeds and look up Allen Lowrie..
I have never purchased or have any experience with carnivorous plants so this should be interesting and fun planting some seeds hope all goes well..
I appreciate your help Thanks Heaps Subrosa
Cheers

[No-Pro-mwa]

Originally Posted by tily

HI

I am new just joined this site today i was looking around the forums about killing Gnats and found this product.. YATES Nature's Way Caterpillar Killer - Dipel (Bacillus Thuringiensis) will it be ok to use in my bark orchid media to kill Gnat larvae and Adult Gnats.. do i soak my orchids that have bark in their pots in this solution.. IS IT SAFE? TO USE ON MY ORCHID LEAVES AND MEDIA?? main ingredient is Bacillus Thuringiensis
I have these bugs in my orchid pots which are inside my house.. they are also flying around my orchid plants

my bark media is new and fresh i dont why i am getting these black bugs..
it reads 10mg mix with 5 litres of water..
Would appreciate some help replies welcome
Thanks

Hello and welcome to the forum. Dipel or Bacillus Thuringiensis or Bt as it is called is not a chemical. It is considered organic I believe. I use it on my broccoli and cabbage to kill the cabbage worms. It will not kill gnats as it will only kill worms and they have to digest it for it to work. It is not a contact spray, it will only kill things that eat the leaves of the plants it's on.

[tily]

Originally Posted by No-Pro-mwa

Hello and welcome to the forum. Dipel or Bacillus Thuringiensis or Bt as it is called is not a chemical. It is considered organic I believe. I use it on my broccoli and cabbage to kill the cabbage worms. It will not kill gnats as it will only kill worms and they have to digest it for it to work. It is not a contact spray, it will only kill things that eat the leaves of the plants it's on.

Hi Shannon
Thanks for the info I have decided not to purchase this item and i am looking into carnivorous plants I am glad with this information you gave me makes it more clear not to go that route as you say it won't be helpful to me..
Cheers

[Ray]

I'm sorry, but I've got to take up the cause for the opposite of what has been said here:

While carnivorous plants are great, trying to use them to control fungus gnats is addressing the symptom, not the problem.

If you have gnats, then you have their larvae, too.

The larvae of fungus gnats consume fungi growing on decomposing organic matter. Once they have outstripped that - whether by overpopulating the pot, or when you repot and remove the majority of the decomposed fodder - they will start to consume roots.

As if the thought of roots being eaten isn't enough of an encouragement to do something about them, you should also be aware that they are a vector for the transmission of various rots and diseases among plants; possibly viruses, too.

The use of a biological treatment like BT is a sound approach, as it is a bacterium that infects and kills the larvae. Why not use it to control the larvae, and the CPs to help with the adults?