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Old 04-23-2015, 01:42 PM
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Hi all l am having a very hard time deciding on what to buy. I want to buy one of the following, and they are all so close to each other i just dont know what one to take.
here they are,
Phragmipedium longifolium
Phragmipedium Calurum
Phragmipedium Schroderae

which one is in your opinion the best one to have?

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I like those with large colour bloom.
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Old 04-23-2015, 03:26 PM
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I have Schroederae and find it very easy to grow and it grows quickly. I got mine in Nov 2012 and have already split it into 3. I grow on windowsill
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Old 04-23-2015, 03:31 PM
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I was leaning more to Schroderae. how big do there blooms get I have a sedenii and there blooms are so tiny. Would the schroderae be larger do to the caudatum parentage
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Old 04-23-2015, 03:59 PM
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natural spread is around 5.8cm wide and 17.2cm long ( from OrchidWiz ). Nice pink.
Out of all my phrags my favourite is Paul Eugene Conroy - petals around 30cm long, but not that colourful. It's a cross between longifolium and wallisii.
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Old 04-25-2015, 04:34 AM
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I too cast my vote for the Schroderae.
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:40 AM
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I just wish they weren't so darned expensive. I would love to try a couple but hate to spend that much just to possibly kill the plant.
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Old 04-25-2015, 11:42 AM
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To me, the decision would come down to (mostly) personal taste, budget, space, then a lot of minor factors like whether I could get mature sized plants, general health of the plants, etc.

Out of those choices, I'd personally go with Phrag. longifolium if space isn't much of an issue, or if you've got access to one of the compact varieties. Once it gets some growths on it, which it can do pretty quickly since it's usually vigorous, longifolium can be in bloom almost non-stop. Obviously if you're looking for colorful blooms (which I interpret as meaning red-orange-yellow-pink-purple), the earth tone flowers might not be that appealing to you. This is the only one from your list that I currently grow.

The next choice option in that list, and the one I think best suits your taste, would be Schroderae. These can also veer into the large growing category, but the flowers should be the largest and most colorful of the group you're considering -- so based on your follow-up, this probably is the one you should pick. That being said, compared with your other options, this one is going to be a little slower to mature, a bit more difficult to bloom regularly (in a home environment), and likely to bloom less often. Due to the caudatum influence, it's also possible that this one will need more careful watering, though most clones will be fine with wet conditions.

The Calurum is my least favorite of the bunch. Like longifolium, it should be really easy to grow and bloom, and once mature with multiple growths, the plant will be in bloom for many months at a time, possibly multiple times a year or even ever blooming. Depending on the varieties of longifolium used, I've seen this hybrid get very large. The flowers will obviously be chunkier than longifolium. While there's a lot of variation in flower shape/size/color/quality, on average I haven't been super impressed with Calurum. The really good ones are really good, but the average ones are really "meh", and unless you're getting a division of a known above average clone, you'll probably end up with something more lackluster in terms of quality.

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I just wish they weren't so darned expensive. I would love to try a couple but hate to spend that much just to possibly kill the plant.
What do you consider to be expensive?

I almost always recommend starting with mature sized plants for new or inexperienced growers. Even though they're more expensive, they're usually healthy enough and have enough reserves to get them through a few initial rough patches while you're learning how to grow them.

BUT ... with something like Phrag. longifolium, as long as you've got a little bit of patience, I think the species is vigorous enough that you really would stand a good chance of success even if you bought a small seedling (maybe 8 - 10 inches or 20 - 25 cm leaf span). It might take a few years (and a lot of space) before you see blooms, but if you keep it warm, wet, and well lit you probably won't kill it.

And Phrag. longifolium is really one of the more affordable phrags as far as I've seen. If you shop around, wait for sales, or just happen to catch Ebay at the right time, I've seen them offered in the $15 - $20 range (shipping and taxes would be extra). I know that expensive is a relative term, but that's about the same price range that I see a lot of other things like phals and oncidiums online.

Once you have grown longifolium for a while, figure out how to care for it, and see that it's growing well, you can be pretty confident that many other (more expensive) phrags will do well in your conditions. Things like Hanne Popow, Eric Young, and some of the more modern complex phrags will enjoy similar care.
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Old 04-25-2015, 12:09 PM
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I just wish they weren't so darned expensive. I would love to try a couple but hate to spend that much just to possibly kill the plant.
Well here in SA they are about the cheapest slippers to buy' ranging from R150-250($15-25) these on my list are all R150
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Old 04-25-2015, 01:58 PM
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I do a lot of ebay, and I admit I don't specifically look for phrags, but whenever I visit my favorite sellers they are usually around $30 plus shipping for babies. I can certainly give warm, wet and well lit to the plant though. I usually use well water, would I need to use something else?
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Old 04-25-2015, 02:07 PM
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Here is the plants i decided on.
Phrag Sorcerers Apprentice:R150
Phrag pearcei:R150
Phrag Schroderae:R150
Phrag lindenii: not got price yet
Phrag xerophyticum: not got price yet
Phrag besseae: not got price yet

And maybe a Phrag extaminodium
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