Den hybrid repotting question
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

Den hybrid repotting question
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register Den hybrid repotting question Members Den hybrid repotting question Den hybrid repotting question Today's PostsDen hybrid repotting question Den hybrid repotting question Den hybrid repotting question
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-18-2015, 08:04 PM
AngelinaMaria AngelinaMaria is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2013
Zone: 5b
Location: The Berkshires, Massachusetts
Age: 42
Posts: 159
Den hybrid repotting question Female
Default Den hybrid repotting question

I have this "den hybrid" (it's what the tag says). I've had it a couple years and I noticed the tips of the leaves turning yellow so I figured I'd take it out of its pot and see what's going on. It's potted in lava rock. So this is what I found.

Here you can see the tips of the leafs turning yellow.


Here's the unpot


Other side


The roots all seem dead. I don't know what the best thing to do is. All I have for media is LECA. Help!!!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-18-2015, 08:24 PM
Paphluvr's Avatar
Paphluvr Paphluvr is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Mar 2011
Zone: 5a
Location: Base of the "Thumb", MI, USA
Posts: 1,420
Den hybrid repotting question Male
Default

Are the roots mushy or are they solid? In the second photo most of the roots appear good to me but the color can be deceiving. That's why I asked if they are mushy or solid. You can remove any dead (i.e., mushy) ones and repot in LECA. LECA and lava rock provide no nutrition to the plant. You don't mention a fertilizing program; what, when and how much. Have you been fertilizing the plant? Other than the yellowing tips the plant looks healthy.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-18-2015, 08:45 PM
AngelinaMaria AngelinaMaria is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2013
Zone: 5b
Location: The Berkshires, Massachusetts
Age: 42
Posts: 159
Den hybrid repotting question Female
Default

Some of the roots are totally hollow, some are a little mushy (kinda hard to tell on some). In the second photo of the roots, the ones that are lighter in color are more firm. I'll admit I haven't given it much fertilizer in the time I've had it. Once and a while I used to water with a weak mix of miracle gro for orchids fertilizer. I recently picked up a bottle of the jacks orchid fertilizer and have watered with that the past two weeks. I make a weak mixture and water usually once a week or so. Although this plant sits next to my kitchen sink so sometimes I give it a quick run under the faucet. Do you think the yellow tips are due to lack of nutrients? Are these like phals and like to be in clear containers so the roots get light? (Currently it's in a black plastic pot)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-19-2015, 07:06 PM
WhiteRabbit WhiteRabbit is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: May 2008
Zone: 9a
Location: Nor Cal
Posts: 26,634
Default

Do you regularly flush out the media?

If unsure about roots, very gently squeeze and very gently pull (down, away from the plant) on velamin - if the velamin comes off easily, the root is no good.

The very nice looking roots in the second pic seem to be newer ones. The first pic, they seem to look ok, but as mentioned, it can be hard to tell from a photo.

The leaves honestly don't look worrisome to me ...

Opaque pots are fine (even for Phals! tho Phal roots do photosynthesize if they get light)

I hope someothers can chime in!
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes lotis146 liked this post
  #5  
Old 03-19-2015, 07:32 PM
AngelinaMaria AngelinaMaria is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2013
Zone: 5b
Location: The Berkshires, Massachusetts
Age: 42
Posts: 159
Den hybrid repotting question Female
Default

I do run plain water through it. Up until a couple weeks ago I only watered with plain tap water. Since then I've used a weak fertilizer water. This is the first time I ever took it out of its pot. The yellow tips on the leaves worried me so I figured I'd check it out. When I bought it it was just finishing blooming. That was two years ago. Since then it grew a new cane but that's it. And that was like a year ago. From what you say about telling if the roots are good or not they mostly seem ok, except for some in the first root pic. Some need to be trimmed that are dead but not a ton. Thanks for the good info!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-19-2015, 07:34 PM
Stray59 Stray59 is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Nov 2012
Zone: 6a
Location: Indianapolis IN
Age: 65
Posts: 905
Den hybrid repotting question Male
Default

AngelinaMarie:
All orchids roots have a certain lifespan and then are replaced with newer roots. I think the side with the better looking roots is probably the side that produce the newest growth. The mushy roots may just the older, no longer viable roots.
Remove any roots that are just "strings" and any that have a mushy velamen, which is the outer, spongy covering. The roots should be firm and not squish out fluid when lightly squeezed.
If I were working with this plant, I would trim all the old roots off (use a clean, sterile blade or scissors), set it aside for a day or so in order to let the roots air out and dry well. Then just get some pine bark or similar potting media for orchids (I have not had luck with LECA, though some have) and once repotted, I would water sparingly for a few weeks, as the roots will not be able to absorb water until they recover from the trauma of repotting; it is important to mist it frequently so the leaves and stalk can absorb some moisture.
Be looking for new, white roots with green tips at the area of the newest growth. Once they start, you know your plant is on it's way to getting better.
It sounds like you are fertilizing well, but again I would hold off on that until the plant has stabilized in a new media.
I wouldn't worry about the tips turning yellow - a little fertilizer may help, but some older leaves will start to turn yellow at the tips and progressively yellow and dry out before falling off.
Have you seen it bloom? It would be interesting to know what hybrid type it is.
Best of luck - overall it looks really nice! It must like you.....

Last edited by Stray59; 03-19-2015 at 07:36 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-19-2015, 07:51 PM
AngelinaMaria AngelinaMaria is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2013
Zone: 5b
Location: The Berkshires, Massachusetts
Age: 42
Posts: 159
Den hybrid repotting question Female
Default

Thank you so much for all this great info. Here's a pic of it when I got it. The flowers are so pretty! I really want to get it to flower again.






Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 2 Likes
Likes judith_arquette, lotis146 liked this post
  #8  
Old 05-19-2015, 06:33 PM
AngelinaMaria AngelinaMaria is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2013
Zone: 5b
Location: The Berkshires, Massachusetts
Age: 42
Posts: 159
Den hybrid repotting question Female
Default

Update: I guess this plant is somewhat happy. Noticed this nub growing. Now if only I could get it to spike and flower.....


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 6 Likes
  #9  
Old 05-19-2015, 08:45 PM
WhiteRabbit WhiteRabbit is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: May 2008
Zone: 9a
Location: Nor Cal
Posts: 26,634
Default

How much light does it get?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-20-2015, 03:48 PM
AngelinaMaria AngelinaMaria is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2013
Zone: 5b
Location: The Berkshires, Massachusetts
Age: 42
Posts: 159
Den hybrid repotting question Female
Default

It's in an east facing window. It gets sun up until maybe noon time.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
den, hybrid, roots, tips, yellow, question, repotting


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dendrobium aggregatum repotting question orion141 Beginner Discussion 9 03-25-2014 12:11 AM
Question about naming paph primary hybrid Orchidreamer Scientific Matters 10 05-01-2011 06:51 PM
Oerstedella centradenium repotting question fotofashion Cattleya Alliance 0 03-26-2011 09:26 PM
Naming plants in the forum..... Bolero Beginner Discussion 32 01-05-2010 06:23 PM
Phal root and repotting question OrchidPhoenix Beginner Discussion 14 02-28-2008 07:17 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:03 AM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.