The first plant isn't a Ludisia discolor, looks to me like an Anoectochilus sp.,
maybe Anoectochilus chapensis. You'll be able to tell for sure when it blooms anyway.
The second is a Ludisia, possibly a Dawsoniana var. (are the veins really red? these are hard to photograph and it's hard to really tell from photos). The red ludisia is very common, although ironically I don't have one of them yet
P.S. The Anoectochilus with the spike won't grow any more. When it's done blooming, a new growth will emerge from the stalk.