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Old 06-14-2014, 07:38 AM
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Hey guys,

So I have 4 den phal noIDs and I want to know what sites can you guys recommend so that I can find the names of these den phals

If not, you can look at my albums and look at the 4 dendrobiums there....


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Old 06-14-2014, 12:55 PM
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Like phals, cultivar names can be tricky because they are mass market items. Many growers put out very similar flowers. Contacting the actual grower with a photo may be the only way to find out what the cultivar, parentage, or what anything like that would be. Thankfully, knowing it is a dendphal gives you the basic growing instructions. Basicaly, the best way to walk off with a plant with a tag is to make sure it has one when you buy it, or buy the plant directly from a grower.
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The mass market is selling 'cut flowers on root'. For 98-99% of the buyers, a name is of little interest, so neither growers nor wholesalers bother too much with name tags.

I have spent some time in the greenhouses of one of the Phalaenopsis operations. Plants arrive from Taiwan in boxes of 2-400 plants, at best with a reference number, but in many cases with just size & color indication.

In Taiwan there are 5 or more companies involved:
Breeder
Tissue culture lab
Compot size grower
Young plant grower
Mature plant grower
Wholesaler/exporter/US purchasing agent
US finishing nursery

In this mass production channel, record keeping of unimportant details (such as names) is likely spotty at best. Even if there is a (suspect) ID number on a tag, it is impossible to trace back through these many layers back to the source, who probably did not register names anyway.

Even the nurseries supplying the hobby grower market do not always bother. I purchased one plant from a reputable US nursery, but could not find name registered by the RHS. When I inquired with seller, he admitted that it was unregistered, and told me the name of the Taiwanese breeder. He added that he had asked for parents several times, but breeder never provided those details.

---------- Post added at 07:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:23 AM ----------

Also, you cannot rely on photos for ID.

There are so many hybrids, that many appear virtually identical. Add to this, that identical plants (whether meristem clones or true divisions), show considerable variation:

Depending upon growing conditions.
Depending upon time of the year (temperature & light level variations).
Depending upon camera used.
Depending upon age of the flower.
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