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Old 01-01-2014, 04:11 AM
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I am admittedly an atrociously ignorant newb. I have a post in the introduction group explaining how I became an orchid owner etc. These roots belong to the first plant I acquired I did not realize until tonight when I got a chance to check out the roots (never even knew to and never would have had it not been for this wonderful forum and members here). I was horrified to see that there was no drainage hole (duh!!!) and the roots were immersed in water Most of the roots are clear and mushy/gel like. I'm afraid that I've killed this beautiful, living thing through my ignorance. I'm posting from my phone and it seems it will only let me upload one pic per post. I have a couple more pics that I'll post (or try to) below that I have the slightest glimmer of hope that may show some roots tht are potentially salvageable and that someway, somehow, my beautiful baby can be saved...please, any and all responses will be most appreciated.

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Old 01-01-2014, 04:15 AM
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This shows what I am hoping are salvageable roots...

I have gently repotted it with dry orchid mix and am hoping someone can help me with what to try/do next

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Old 01-01-2014, 04:17 AM
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I'm just heart sick. I can only hope desperately that it can be saved.

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Old 01-01-2014, 08:14 AM
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Hi Judith

That looks salvageable.

First, clean any old potting medium (bark, etc.) off of the roots. Some portion of the root system may be obviously bad (dark brown, mushy), use your fingers to pull the bad stuff out (if it is yellow, white, green or silvery, or brown but firm, leave it). Then keep the plant out of any pot or potting medium for a while until the roots have a chance to dry a bit (maybe a day or two). Orchid roots are adapted to be in the air, so this will not hurt them.

While the roots are out of the medium, let's look at them to understand the root structure. The true root is thin, and is inside a thicker, spongy coating called velamen. Most of what you see that has rotted is the velamen; the thin cord that you may see as the rotted velamen is removed is the root, and may or may not be OK.

While the roots are drying, get some basic orchid potting supplies. Lowes, Walmart or Home Depot (or whatever big-box home improvement store you may have in your area) will have orchid bark for potting medium. For pots, I personally prefer those reddish, unglazed terracotta pots because they drain well; you may be able to find terracotta orchid pots with holes on the sides, those are good if you can find them. The ideal pot should just barely fit all of the roots with a little room for orchid bark. Some people like plastic pots, and they are fine, but must have many holes in them to drain well.

After a day or two, check the roots again, try to pull off as much of the remaining rotted material as you can from the root system. Some of what was mushy/rotted before will feel papery now, remove the papery stuff.

When you re-pot, here is a link to some basic re-potting instructions: A couple things I would mention: the video recommends a mix of materials, while I have recommended just sticking with bark; that is sort of a personal choice, but plain bark or bark plus charcoal works for me. Also, he attempts to sterilize scissors with alcohol, which will not kill plant viruses; instead, heat sterilize your cutting tools by running them through a flame until hot (just the cutting tips), then cool before using.

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Old 01-01-2014, 08:28 AM
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Thank you so much! Will do! And I will def keep u posted!
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:37 AM
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I think they'll come around. my first phals were in way worse shape(one had no roots left at all) and they've both come around. It takes a long time though so stay patient. one thing that seemed to help mine was putting them on a heat pad to encourage root growth, once they are potted. watering with seaweed supplements might also help.
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Old 01-01-2014, 12:59 PM
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Very nice advice from other posters. I think how most of get into trouble is to buy a new orchid while our "beginning" orchid is healing :-) Read The Phal Abuse Ends Here if you haven't yet. It's very long but very helpful. Then as you nurse this one back to health buy a new one armed with all the proper information and enjoy its blooms. You'll be addicted just like the rest of us soon!
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I've seen worse... As long as it has some live roots it should survive. Kelp extract can help stimulate root growth. Be wary of some of the packaged orchid mixes at the BB stores. Some of it has been sitting around way too long and is too decomposed to use. Feel the bags and take the one that feels the most chunky. Occasionally they will sell just bark, and if they do I would opt for that rather than the pre-mixed stuff. Good luck!
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Old 01-01-2014, 04:08 PM
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I use Better Gro Phalaenopsis bark and they usually have this at Lowe's

I find the best way to prepare this medium for potting a phal, is to stick the amount I will need for potting in a large bowl in the sink, then put on my tea kettle to boil. Once it boils, I take the tea kettle to the bowl of bark and pour the boiling water straight onto the bark. Then I let it sit there overnight to cool. The next day, I drain the bark and pot it.

I find that pouring boiling water helps open up the bark to accept more moisture so it doesn't dry out as quickly. Without doing the boiling water step, it can take months for bark to settle in.

Hope this helps!
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