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Old 12-02-2013, 05:08 PM
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the plant is fine the brown marks have been their since i got the plant. basically when i received my plant i soaked it in fertilizer and superthrive i left this in its reservoir and covered the whole plant with a clear bag, 2 months later I unrooted it and found the new roots. only the new leaves have died and nothing else. I suppose the problem was planting it too deep.

sorry for bad grammar i'm rushing
i'll post some pics tomorrow so you can check if it's not too deep.

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Old 12-04-2013, 09:09 AM
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so i was looking at the leaves when i noticed some rotting, i pulled the leaf off the base with ease, the other leaf that was right next to the one i pulled off is fine and there is no rotting, i just flushed the plant with water added with hydrogen peroxide (3%).

will my paph be fine? was pulling off the rotting leaf enough? and will spraying my paph with hydrogen peroxide stop the spread?
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Old 12-04-2013, 02:47 PM
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I don't thin I see any new leaf rotting. Maybe you have already removed it from the plant?
If you are referring to the dark brown small leaf near the base, then it is not a new leaf but the oldest leaf.
To me, it appears to be dead and turn brown due to too much moisture, but nothing to be worried about as the rest of the plant seems fine.

The brown markings though, you want to pay close attention. If you do not see them spread, then maybe it is fine, but paphiopdeilum leaves turn brown to reddish brown when damaged, so it could be bruise, but there are common leaf disease on paphiopedilum that progress either slow or fast.
So pay close attention on the leaves often.

The hairy roots look good to me.
I wouldn't use hydrogen peroxide too often. It may kill off germs but I find that it can also damage plant tissues.
I no longer use it after some damage done on quite a few of my orchids.
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Old 12-04-2013, 03:34 PM
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It's not in the picture, it formed overnight, it was brown and soft and when i push it it would bend. I was pulled the leaf slightly to get a better look but the whole leaf go ripped from the base! after that i dipped the plant in water with a tiny bit of hydrogen peroxide and there was no fizzing.
my main question is now that i pulled off the infected leaf, is my plant safe from the rot?
i wiped the whole plant with cinnamon on cotton just to make sure its dry.
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Old 12-04-2013, 03:42 PM
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here's a picture of the other leaf that was connected to the one i ripped off(the leaf to the right).

also are these bruises or a rot?
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The brown markings in the first picture, you want to keep an eye on and make sure they are not spreading. The funny thing is bruise and brown leaf spotting in paphs look awfully similar.

The second picture, the dark brown part near the base is rotted due to too much water, but it is not the rot as in the serious disease rot. No need to worry about it.
I would dress the top exposed roots with a thin layer of moss though. The depth looks fine as is, just a moss over will be enough for little added moisture without rotting the base again.
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Old 12-04-2013, 05:56 PM
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quick question what do you call the new growth on a paph, are they pseudobulbs or crowns?
and if i'm watering too much should i let its reservoir dry out or just keep it at a moderate amount?

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I call the new growths starts. When you get a few starts grown up then you have clumps. And then hopefully lots of slipper blooms!

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quick question what do you call the new growth on a paph, are they pseudobulbs or crowns?
and if i'm watering too much should i let its reservoir dry out or just keep it at a moderate amount?
Paphiopedilums do not have pseudobulbs. The individual growths are referred to as "fan" because of the shape, which I think is a casual term used by hobby growers.

A group of fans are a clump.
Some paphs form clumps readily while some never do as older growths die out too fast.
The ones that do make nice clump is stunning in bloom with many stems shooting up.

In s/h, you should not dry out the potting mix. If you did, then that is not s/h anymore.

I would just top dress the base of the plant with some moss to keep that area from getting too dry.
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Old 12-05-2013, 11:13 AM
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If new leaves in the center of the fan are dying, that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it is in S/H culture, but you're probably getting water in there, which you want to avoid. If that cannot be avoided, due to your watering technique, water early in the day so they have lots of time to dry out.

"Water with a tiny bit of hydrogen peroxide" achieves nothing. Assuming you've got the 3% stuff, use it with no dilution, and tilt the plant to dump the residual water out of the crown after 5 minutes.
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