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Old 10-13-2013, 07:03 PM
wimbledee wimbledee is offline
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Hiya everyone, I have been keeping orchids for just a little over a year now. I got sucked in to buying some lovely looking phals on sale at Home Depot, and here we are. I'm here with the same question for two of my phals- are these keikis or what?

The first picture is a very small phal lueddemanniana var. purpurea which I bought at an orchid show last Feb. It was looking rather sad when I picked it up but I thought I could save it and it was only a few dollars. I over-potted it a bit because I've read that small orchids like this need room for 2 years' growth, and that over-potting helps the plant to focus on root growth which was what it seemed to really need at the time. Now it looks much better, has grown a new leaf and seems to be starting in on a third. But a couple months ago I noticed this little growth on the underside of the larger leaf on the right. It doesn't look at all like a root and seems too low to be a flower spike... plus I think this plant is nowhere near blooming size. I've heard this particular variant of phal described as a "keiki machine" but I never would have thought it would start so young. Your thoughts?

The second picture is the first phal I bought (white NoID) and really did a number on at first. It dropped all but one leaf last year but has just put out two new ones very recently. I was getting ready to repot it since it seems to have a lot of old dried out roots but then I noticed this little green nub on the underside of the largest leaf. I don't think phals spike from there, and I don't expect this one to bloom again until late spring, but I suppose it might be a root... is it too early to tell?

Thanks for all of your help!


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Old 10-13-2013, 07:15 PM
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The second picture is a new root coming in. In the first picture, it looks like you're growing a new leaf and have a flower spike off on the right. But that's just my unprofessional opinion.
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Old 10-13-2013, 08:15 PM
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second pic is a new root for sure.
first pic the growth under the leaf i think will be a keiki.
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Old 10-13-2013, 10:11 PM
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agreed, 2nd pic = root

1st pic..... idk, I have a phal that is also popular for keikis and I have 2 growths that look to me like the beginnings of keikis, like the very end of your growth there, but they are very short, close to the base, no "stem" if you will like yours.
Mine are growing terribly slow if they are keikis (I dont have any other opinions- not a root, not flower spikes)
Maybe yours is a spike, but it's too young to form completely??? Does that even happen?
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Old 10-14-2013, 12:58 AM
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Thank you to everybody who replied so far! I guess I have never noticed a tiny new root formation before, but now I can recognize one, which is helpful!

And LadySoren, that little growth on my phal is growing very very slowly too. In doing some research on this phal I saw that many people experienced extremely slow-growing flower spikes well into the plants' adulthood. However I was also under the impression that normally phals need at least 3 to 4 leaves to send out a spike. This one is so little, and that third leaf is only a week or so old... plus it looks so strange, less of a rounded "mitten-like" shape like I've seen on my other phals, and more like a chunky little lobster claw. It seems to be doing just fine, it's a hard little worker sending out all sorts of new growth, so I guess I will have to wait and see...
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