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02-07-2013, 10:13 AM
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I definitely would not keep pulling it out of the pot to look for roots. as Paul said, most new ones will be from near the top of the base as new nubs. I too love the clear pots.
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02-14-2013, 04:42 PM
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Horay, I finally see the promising sign that I managed to save this little poor phal (once again thanks to all the tips I got Orchid Board).
New little nub at the base, and two growth tips from one of the older root in the pot that I can definitely see maybe there are more hidden inside the medium
The new leaf also has grown a bit since last time I took the photo just a week ago.
As you can see on the photo, the older leaf are all wrinkled and yellowed from the previous abuse and root rot. Will they ever recover, or do they tend to stay a bit sad like this forever?
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02-14-2013, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tsun1108
Horay, I finally see the promising sign that I managed to save this little poor phal (once again thanks to all the tips I got Orchid Board).
New little nub at the base, and two growth tips from one of the older root in the pot that I can definitely see maybe there are more hidden inside the medium
The new leaf also has grown a bit since last time I took the photo just a week ago.
As you can see on the photo, the older leaf are all wrinkled and yellowed from the previous abuse and root rot. Will they ever recover, or do they tend to stay a bit sad like this forever?
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Congrats on the good signs! The old leaves will likely stay that was as a sad reminder. But it is a learning experience and these are war wounds!
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02-14-2013, 04:57 PM
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Your phal is pushing a new leaf and roots.
It is very much alive and healthy I would say.
Time to water and fertilize.
It is very dehydrated though. These plants will drop old leaves, usually one at a time, which is normal, but with the number of leaves your plant has, it is not normal aging process, but it is a plant's way of saving water by cutting off leaves (that way they do not lose more water).
You want to soak the entire pot in a room temperature water for half an hour. then COMPLETELY drain the water until no water drops at the bottom of the pot.
Then put the whole thing back to wherever it was before. Good light helps! it's summer in your part of the world, so avoid strong sun but keep your plant in bright area.
Now feel how heavy the pot is now. then check the weight in about a week, should be dry by then I think. It feels much lighter, then water it again, but good soak as before.
Your plant is suffereing dehydration, so it will appreciate good soaking.
Your most bottom one or two leaves will most likely drop no matter how much you water given the way they look, but the other leaves may plump back as you water properly for the next few weeks. They may stay a bit wrinkled, but good watering only helps.
Last but not least, as Silken says, do not bother to take your plant out of the pot to check for roots. Now that you have it in a clear pot, you don't need to anyway, but I don't see any reason to periodically take plants out of their pots to see the roots. adding more stress. unless you have a very good reason to check the roots like plants are drying out for no apparent reason.
Other than that, no reason to take them out of the pot. Just keep them in their pots, water and fertilize in a bright area. they will grow and flower.
Then when it's time to repot, that is when you want to take the plants out of their pots.
Best wishes!!!
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02-14-2013, 10:02 PM
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Hmmmm I have been watering it via the soaking method but slightly less duration maybe just 5 minutes every 5-7 days.
I guess I am scared of overwatering seeing that I just saved it from root rot from sitting in a puddle of water and initially even had mold on the bamboo skewer that I inserted to test for moisture.
The bottom leaf had been like that since from the days it was suffering from root rot.
With regards to light, it's sitting facing SE window approximately 2m away and will receive direct morning (7-9am) sunlight for 2-3 hours only each day. I have another phal that's right next to it and the new leaf it has grown had a slight purple tinge, which I learnt from other threads means that it's near maximal sunlight and there were no sunburnt so I guess the light level is good.
I shall go and give it a good bath with fertiliser tomorrow morning!!
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02-14-2013, 11:29 PM
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Hmmmm I have been watering it via the soaking method but slightly less duration maybe just 5 minutes every 5-7 days.
I guess I am scared of overwatering seeing that I just saved it from root rot from sitting in a puddle of water and initially even had mold on the bamboo skewer that I inserted to test for moisture.
The bottom leaf had been like that since from the days it was suffering from root rot.
With regards to light, it's sitting facing SE window approximately 2m away and will receive direct morning (7-9am) sunlight for 2-3 hours only each day. I have another phal that's right next to it and the new leaf it has grown had a slight purple tinge, which I learnt from other threads means that it's near maximal sunlight and there were no sunburnt so I guess the light level is good.
I shall go and give it a good bath with fertiliser tomorrow morning!!
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5 minutes is also good. Soaking for even one hour doesn't harm the plants. It is not the same as sitting in water, which WILL kill roots and then rot sets in.
With good soak, the recovery is faster.
Also, frequent misting on the exposed roots also help plump the plants back up.
Direct morning sun is good and they do much better with much brighter light than many think.
Purple tinge is not necessarily a sign that the light is too strong.
Purple or pink flowered phals will show such pigmentation no matter what.
As long as you don't burn leaves, the light is good.
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