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Old 01-23-2013, 11:30 AM
orchideya
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I posted this question on the other forum but didn't get answer yet.
Maybe you guys would know:

Four of my plants started to grow keikis on the old spikes recently.
First it was just pulchra and lueddemanniana which are prone to producing keikis, so I didn't worry and was actually happy.
Then it was a hybrid - Phal. Coral Isles x corningiana.
Now it is Phal. cornu-cervi - on both spikes:



What am I doing wrong? Could it be wrong type of fertilizer? I use dilluted 20-20-20.
Thanks a lot.
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:52 AM
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I dont think it's a fertilizer issue. Also, I'll need more pics of these kiekis as well. Sometimes a spike bract point will show a large leaf like I see above. I can't tell if that's the case here or not but it could be. I dont think CCs are prone to kieki, and anytime I see more than one kieki on a plant I get concerned about the mother plant. Pulchra and luedde do this kieki thing all the time, so I wouldn't worry about hem, so long as you're certain the health of the mother plant is good (That often throw keikis rather than blooms in cases of low light I believe... Think I remember that correctly).
Just looking at the plant above, it's tough to conclude the health of the plant. it might be ok, maybe not. I'd really monitor this and make sure mom is ok. Some more pics will help of this and the novelty cross (I have the same cross!).

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Meant to respond on BLO, but was leaving for work and didn't have time. Sorry!
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:40 PM
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Thank you for answering. I am glad it is not fertilizer.
Low light might be a good explanation, my phals were in the humidity trays on the wall shelves pretty far from windows since September.
Now they are moved into orchid tank with bright light and should feel better.

CC had very rough times with root loss due to rot ,being mounted and more root loss to drying out on that mount. Finally I just potted it and let it be, so it grew a new leaf and I thought it was improving.
So, I am not going to change my care and will see what happens next.

Did your Phal. Coral Isles x corningiana bloom? Do you have a picture?

Thanks again.
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:48 PM
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No bloom yet, but hopefully sometime soon.... Here is a pic of it.
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:11 PM
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Looks good.
Here is mine:



It came with spike start and I was hoping to see a flower but it converted to keiki.
This picture is about 3 weeks old, the keiki started to grow a root already!

I also have the reversed cross - corningiana x Coral Isles, but it has such bad roots conditions that I am not sure if it's going to make it.

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Old 01-23-2013, 01:25 PM
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Well if it's got bad roots, down pot it as much as you can and reduce the light levels a lot. Keep humidity up if you can as well. This is a great way to save Phals. I also have the reverse cross somewhere downstairs. I have high hopes for corningiana crosses!
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:31 PM
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Well if it's got bad roots, down pot it as much as you can and reduce the light levels a lot. Keep humidity up if you can as well. This is a great way to save Phals. I also have the reverse cross somewhere downstairs. I have high hopes for corningiana crosses!
That's what I am doing - downpotted, keep humid and crossed my fingers.

I just really like the Coral Isles cross but can't find it anywhere, so hoping this cross will look similar since it is one of the parents and corningiana is sort of red too.
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:37 PM
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What do you mean it has one of the parents? Coral Isles is PK x luedde)and I have a friend who just remade this cross!). You should get thick flowers with a nice fragrance, and either purples or red from it, with some white splotching from corningiana.
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Old 01-23-2013, 02:31 PM
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I mean:
Coral Isles is one of the parents of the cross Coral Isles X corningiana, and corningiana is sort of red too, so this cross (Coral Isles X corningiana) should look very similar to the Coral Isles itself.
Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 01-23-2013, 02:36 PM
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Oh gotcha. You can easily remake it yourself! Or maybe I can try and shuttle some seeds/seedlings of the cross up to you and Cody in the great white North.
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