When is an orchid considered a species?

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

Btw, if you guys want to properly denote a natural hybrid it would look like the following:

Phalaenopsis x leucorrhoda

Phalaenopsis x gernotii

[camille1585]

Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:)

Yes, there are hybrid orchids with Latin sounding names. The only one that comes to my mind at the moment is -

Paphiopedilum Maudiae!

There are many more hybrids with names that look like this. Trust me, it isn't just one or two, there are a good number of them.

Then there is also the species Paphiopedilum maudiae!!!

Didn't know that there was Maudiae and maudiae. Making writing out the name properly all the more important.

Off the top of my head I know some other hybrids that could easily be thought to be a species if there's no capital.
Phal Wiganiae
Paph Delrosi

[camille1585]

Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:)

Btw, if you guys want to properly denote a natural hybrid it would look like the following:

Phalaenopsis x leucorrhoda

Phalaenopsis x gernotii

So the 'x' means that leucorrhoda was formed by 2 species? How do you know which they are? And if that's correct, if you make the cross yourself in cultivation, does the hybrid get names x leucorrhoda, or is it given a 'proper' hybrid name?

[lambelkip]

Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:)

Then there is also the species Paphiopedilum maudiae!!!

no species has ever been described using that name, but the hybrid has often been sold as if it were a species.

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

Ok, well then Paph Maudiae is a good example of what I'm talking about. It's just that it doesn't have a hybrid counterpart and a species counterpart with the same name then; it's just a complex man-made hybrid with a Latinized name.

But there are definitely other man-made hybrids that have Latinized names as was mentioned by Camille.

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Philip, thank you for explaining this in a manner that doesn't make my head spin.

Camille, thank you for your contribution.

I learn so much everyday from all of you who are a wealth of knowledge. Thanks for taking the time to educate us. Kudos!!!

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Excuse me!! You made the statement that is flat wrong. I just asked you a simple question.

Your aggressiveness following outlandish posts is amusing.

[Val]

Originally Posted by camille1585

So the 'x' means that leucorrhoda was formed by 2 species? How do you know which they are? And if that's correct, if you make the cross yourself in cultivation, does the hybrid get names x leucorrhoda, or is it given a 'proper' hybrid name?

Lots of details on the subject here:
Correct name of a primary hybrid

[lambelkip]

Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:)

Ok, well then Paph Maudiae is a good example of what I'm talking about. It's just that it doesn't have a hybrid counterpart and a species counterpart with the same name then; it's just a complex man-made hybrid with a Latinized name.

But there are definitely other man-made hybrids that have Latinized names as was mentioned by Camille.

Just to confuse things further, Paph Maudiae is a primary hybrid (a cross of two species), rather than a complex hybrid (a cross containing at least one hybrid)

there are also cases where reclassification of species has given 2 different hybrids the same name. For example, Cattleya Sedenii (Registered as LC Sedenii in 1877), and the other Cattleya Sedenii (registered 1896)

latinized names are common for hybrids created during the victorian era, but more modern hybrids are made using English names in order to avoid these types of confusion.

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

Originally Posted by lambelkip

Just to confuse things further, Paph Maudiae is a primary hybrid (a cross of two species), rather than a complex hybrid (a cross containing at least one hybrid)

Ok...

You know more about the Paph Maudiae thing...

What you said.