Ya I know what you mean Bud. There's just something satisfying to me to flower a plant for the first time or grow a plant from a medium size to a specimen over a period of time! The angraecum I bought from him had 2 flower spikes and about 3-4 smaller plants attached. It was a very awesome 20$ buy! I guess it just depends what you want! Still quality plants! Thanks for the response my BUDdy boy ;-)