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Old 07-31-2011, 12:17 PM
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I've never heard of using honey on an orchid but molasses is a common ingredient in home made fertilizers. KLN or seaweed will probably do a better job of stimulating root growth. There's no reason to use other fertilizers until you see some new roots forming on the lead psuedobulb. By the way, that looks like a bifolate. Bifolates take a while to recover from repotting. They can remain dormant for a while and they often skip a blooming season after repotting. Your plant looks healthy and I would expect that you will see some new roots forming eventually. Good luck.
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Old 07-31-2011, 12:24 PM
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I even bought a root product from Advanced Nutrients called Revive (1% N, 1% Calcium, .5% Mg, .3%Iron) Someone mentioned that if it doesn't have roots, this product won't help.

So here I am. Any thoughts?
The leaves can absorb N and Ca on the underside. Looks like you have several leads. I'm not sure how bright or if you get a big enough temp drop at night. It will need temp drops to signal the plant to grow. If you can put it outside under a porch or in a east window with the window open on a humidity tray. I think you'll have better luck.

I have several that I got from SBOE special tables that had very little roots if any. I have them potted even with to top of the mix under 55% shade and doing well. They get no special treatment. All have new growth and several have new roots! NO KLN or special root hormones, just get fertilized when the rest of my plants do.
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Old 07-31-2011, 12:32 PM
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The leaves can absorb N and Ca on the underside. Looks like you have several leads. I'm not sure how bright or if you get a big enough temp drop at night. It will need temp drops to signal the plant to grow. If you can put it outside under a porch or in a east window with the window open on a humidity tray. I think you'll have better luck.

I have several that I got from SBOE special tables that had very little roots if any. I have them potted even with to top of the mix under 55% shade and doing well. They get no special treatment. All have new growth and several have new roots! NO KLN or special root hormones, just get fertilized when the rest of my plants do.
Right now it's in the aquarium. The temp in there doesn't fluctuate much (26C about 80F) I put it there for the humidity. I can put it outside under the patio tent where it would get bright but not direct sun. Most days its pretty hot (we get full morning sun in the back) with a humidity tray. Will this humidity be enough?
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Old 07-31-2011, 12:35 PM
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I've never heard of using honey on an orchid but molasses is a common ingredient in home made fertilizers.
Molasses does the same as honey. Used by gardeners to feed the microbes in the soil. I use honey and/or molasses as a catalyses for my worm teas. It help a ton with sweeting strawberries and the flavors of tomatoes, oranges, lemons and nectarines.
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Old 07-31-2011, 12:46 PM
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Here's my rootless catt. The new growth is hard to see, but it's there!


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Old 07-31-2011, 12:54 PM
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Right now it's in the aquarium. The temp in there doesn't fluctuate much (26C about 80F) I put it there for the humidity. I can put it outside under the patio tent where it would get bright but not direct sun. Most days its pretty hot (we get full morning sun in the back) with a humidity tray. Will this humidity be enough?
Right now it about 80-95 in the day and 60-70 and night hear and my humidity in around 30-40%. I'm sure it's higher at the pots. Along as you can try to get the plant from losing fluids via humidity, misting. Your plant should be ok sitting on top of the mix you use in a plastic pot. As long as you don't have strong gusts of wind. I would buy a RH meter to see what you have outside.... about $30. I would think you would have 40% or higher up there.

If you don't feel comfortable about putting it outside a windowsill will work.
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Old 07-31-2011, 12:59 PM
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don't use raw honey--Clostridum spores. Botulism is not a fun diease.
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Old 07-31-2011, 01:42 PM
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OMG!
From the pictures your plant seems ok to me. But I can't agree with those remedies....
First: humidity over 50% seems to low. In a closed terrarium it should be higher. Are you sure about that 50%?
A plant without roots can not feed with water as a healthy plant does - so there is a big risk the plant will wilt because of evapotranspiration: it loses more water through the le aves than it can absorb. Humidity should be at 100%-90%! In a closed terrarium or aquarium this should be no problem.
I'll try to show you a picture of my "recovery-bottles" - 10litres plastic bottles, with little holes at about 3cm at the sides, filled with volcanic ashes/pebbles/bark or whatsoever, in there are my seedlings or my rootless ill plants. The color markings outside are to prevent sunburn when sun hits the bottles in the morning, they are all standing on the balcony.
The get sprayed every other day, so humidity is very hight but they are never water logged. With this method I've saves a lot of plants that had no roots. They have a little temperature drop at night I suppose, but I think that is more crucial for already growing plants.
I hope it works for you as well.

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Old 07-31-2011, 01:51 PM
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I would wet the base and sprinkle cinnamon on the entire base. I have been using cinnamon as a growth stimulant for some time after reading about it in the book 'Tropical Slipper Orchids' by Harold Koopowitz. One of the other benefits of cinnamon is its anti-fungal and antibiotic properties. I have used cinnamon to get many stalled plants going and on many occasions the plant would show new growth within days and other times it can take weeks or even months and sadly on some it just doesn't seem to do anything, but the thing is it won't hurt to try. On many of the stalled Phals. that I used the cinnamon on, it has caused them to develop a spike. Usual these stalled Phals. are already stressed due to loss of roots and/or damaged leaves so I have pinched off the spike.

The old sphag and bag treatment might not hurt as well.
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Old 07-31-2011, 02:36 PM
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It looks fine to me. I would just keep doing what you're doing and it'll start when it's ready. Maybe set it in damp sphag or just pot it up. I wouldn't worry about it.
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