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Old 04-25-2011, 11:12 AM
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Hi there, i just purchased a Den Formeri and a Cycnodes Chlorochilon x Jumbo Puff i was hoping to get some advice on the care/maintenance of these plants and to know if i should repot immediately since i bought them at the orchids show, i have no clue what medium they're in now.
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The names of the plants you own should really look like this:

Den. farmeri

not

Den. formeri.

Den. farmeri is a species. It belongs to the section Densiflorum. It is one of those that has a distinct dormancy period that must be observed in order for long term health to be maintained. These do not go fully deciduous during the onset of dormancy. Roots stay alive during dormancy, but remain inactive. Dormancy starts in late fall/early winter through early spring. It is completely unnecessary to water and fertilize them during dormancy. You may water them on very rare occasions, but do not fertilize them at all when they're not in active growth. Even the occasional misting of the roots is okay during dormancy, but don't get carried away with it, or it may do some damage to the plant (new shoots may damp out and die).

Grow them in moderately bright indirect light.

Coolish to warm temperatures (50 F - 95 F).

Intermediate to high humidity (50% to 80% is adequate).

Moderate to good air circulation.

Do not grow in moss whatsoever, the roots have a high probability of suffocating and dying under extremely wet conditions and not enough air circulation to the roots.

A general watering guideline is 2 - 3 times a week during active growth. Take note that I mentioned that this is a "guideline", not a rule. There is a little flexibility.

It's fragrant. However, it may stop producing the fragrance after 4 pm (it sounds like b.s., but it's not, certain orchids can time their fragrance because their pollinators are active during certain time frames in the day).

And...

Cycnodes (chlorochilon x Jumbo Puff)

Let me explain why the Cycnodes is labeled the way it is...

I've already explained to you how the name Cycnodes breaks down.

The "chlorochilon" portion is the part that's tricky. That's actually part of the name to a species plant. That plant is called Cynoches chlorochilon. Again, notice it is not a Cycnodes, it is a Cycnoches ("Swan Orchids"). There is a big difference.

Btw, in case you wanted to know...

Cycnoches chlorochilon has a pendulous inflorescence with several large, star shaped, yellow-green flowers. They're really cool.

"Jumbo Puff" is another Cycnodes, so when in reference to this particular parent plant of the cross, it would look like: Cycnodes Jumbo Puff.

To make it clear, I will write out the names of the orchids involved in the cross in this way:

Cycnoches chlorochilon x Cycnodes Jumbo Puff

But since the intergeneric hybrid only involves the genera Cycnoches and Mormodes, it can be generally called a Cycnodes. So hence:

Cycd (chlorochilon x Jumbo Puff)

The fact that the hybrid still mentions the parents of the cross in it's name means that it is either not a registered hybrid or it hasn't yet been assigned an official registered grex and cultivar name.

I had to clarify this in order for you to understand what you have.

The general guidelines for growing the Cycnodes are:

Intermediate to warm (55 F - 95 F).

Bright shade to moderate indirect bright.

Moderate to high humidity (50% - 80% is adequate).

Moderate to good air circulation.


Oh yeah, I forgot to mention...

The members of the sub-tribe Catasetinae have a very distinct feature...

Each plant carries flowers that are either male or female depending on the cultural conditions.

Rarely does each plant carry both male and female flowers.

Unless there's a genetic mutation, each flower usually does not contain both male and female parts. Each flower either has male parts, or they have female parts.
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Btw, I recommend posting your questions regarding your Cycnodes in the "Catasetum and Stanhopea" forum.

You might get better responses there.
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Thank you Philip! Do you have any specific recommendation on repotting these? Other than avoiding sphagnum moss for the den.
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For the Den:

Small to medium grade bark, with or without perlite and/or charcoal - your choice.

You may also try using medium grade CHC if you see that the plant is not properly hydrated during active growth.



For the Cycd:

Med grade bark with or w/o perlite and/or charcoal - your choice.

Maybe medium grade CHC if you have trouble keeping them properly hydrated.
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