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03-13-2013, 10:43 PM
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You would know a rotten root. They are not dried out, but slimy, stringy and falling apart because they are decomposing. You can try repotting it like Talila6 said, but it could be suffering from crown rot, where it is rotting where water could be pooling where the leaves begin. The dew/sap that you are referring to could be scales. They look like barnacles and the dew is a sure sign. You might lose this one, but chalk it up to experience. However, sometimes their will to live is surprising!
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03-13-2013, 11:06 PM
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Your Phal doesn't look that bad to me. There are lots of healthy green roots. Some look fairly new as they are a few inches long. I would soak some new bark overnight and sterilize your pot and re-pot it, even tho the old bark doesn't look particularly old. Make sure you don't have a pest such as spider mite which can cause leaf drop and is very hard to see. You should use a loupe or magnifying glass and check undersides of leves for tiny red or brown dots and very fine webs. Also where leaves join at the crown for webs. Holding up to the light shows them sometimes. Or wipe the underside of the leaves with a tissue and see if you get 'dust' which could be mites. I don't see scale or mealy bugs in the photo but check for all pests. From the photo I don't see crown rot either but check the centre and make sure it looks green and healthy. Never leave water sitting in the crown. If it is clear of pests and you remove all hollow or mushy roots, then re-pot it and hopefully it will be fine.
Do you ever feed it? If not, it could finally be showing lack of nutrition after all these years.
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03-14-2013, 05:02 PM
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I recently bought a Phal and when I got it home it was in desperate need of repotting and most of its roots were rotted (too much moss!). After reading this entire thread, I decided to order some Dyna Gro root hormone to help it grow some more roots since I had to cut almost all of them off...How do I apply the root hormone? Do I mist the plant with it? Do I water the plant and then apply the hormone after? Do I put it directly on the roots?
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03-14-2013, 09:53 PM
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Thanks for all your replies. I did look closer at the bark and did find one small white bug. It doesnt look like crown rot from the top, but the part where the lower leaves connect to the stem is a bit darker. I had no idea that I wasn't suppose to get water in the crown, and I know I am definitely guilty of this. I haven't fertilized it in a month or so
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03-14-2013, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by lightrain21
Thanks for all your replies. I did look closer at the bark and did find one small white bug. It doesnt look like crown rot from the top, but the part where the lower leaves connect to the stem is a bit darker. I had no idea that I wasn't suppose to get water in the crown, and I know I am definitely guilty of this. I haven't fertilized it in a month or so
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You could apply a bit of hydrogen peroxide where the leaves join the crown just in case a bit of rot has started. Make sure the plant has none of the white or other bugs and pot it up! Fertilizing once a month is OK but weakly weekly is a common expression for advice on fertilizing orchids. They would rather have a regular but weaker than normal dose of feed so their roots aren't burnt and they get evenly distributed nutrients.
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Originally Posted by butterfly_muse
I recently bought a Phal and when I got it home it was in desperate need of repotting and most of its roots were rotted (too much moss!). After reading this entire thread, I decided to order some Dyna Gro root hormone to help it grow some more roots since I had to cut almost all of them off...How do I apply the root hormone? Do I mist the plant with it? Do I water the plant and then apply the hormone after? Do I put it directly on the roots?
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Just follow the directions on the package of root hormone. I assume it is K-L-N? If so it is added to the water when you water the plant. I like to use it or seaweed in some water to soak roots of orchids when I re-pot them or if they are struggling with poor roots.
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03-14-2013, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by silken
You could apply a bit of hydrogen peroxide where the leaves join the crown just in case a bit of rot has started. Make sure the plant has none of the white or other bugs and pot it up! Fertilizing once a month is OK but weakly weekly is a common expression for advice on fertilizing orchids. They would rather have a regular but weaker than normal dose of feed so their roots aren't burnt and they get evenly distributed nutrients.
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Just follow the directions on the package of root hormone. I assume it is K-L-N? If so it is added to the water when you water the plant. I like to use it or seaweed in some water to soak roots of orchids when I re-pot them or if they are struggling with poor roots.
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Yes, it is KLN. I watered my gals last weekend by drenching under the faucet in my sink (we have a filter on it) and letting it drain...how do you apply it with that method of watering? Or do I need to buy distilled water and mix it into that? I've read elsewhere that it works better fresh so not to let the mixture sit in the jug. I only have 2 phals so far so I don't want to be wasteful. Would I flush the plant with the whole gallon of mix or..? Sorry to ask so many questions! I just really want to nurse this girl back to health. Thanks!
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03-14-2013, 10:35 PM
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Yes, it is KLN. I watered my gals last weekend by drenching under the faucet in my sink (we have a filter on it) and letting it drain...how do you apply it with that method of watering? Or do I need to buy distilled water and mix it into that? I've read elsewhere that it works better fresh so not to let the mixture sit in the jug. I only have 2 phals so far so I don't want to be wasteful. Would I flush the plant with the whole gallon of mix or..? Sorry to ask so many questions! I just really want to nurse this girl back to health. Thanks!
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You could mix a smaller amount like 1/4 gallon (litre) and let each plant sit in their own little container of this water for a while till it is well watered and then drain it well. Use a sour cream tub or similar for each one and let them sit in water to near the top of the pot for about 1/2 hr. If you have a filter and use water from the tap then use that water. If you have a water softener that uses salt, I wouldn't be using tap water unless the filter removes all the salts. Make sure you divide the amount of K-L-N to be correct for the smaller amount of water you are using.
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03-14-2013, 10:38 PM
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You could mix a smaller amount like 1/4 gallon (litre) and let each plant sit in their own little container of this water for a while till it is well watered and then drain it well. Use a sour cream tub or similar for each one and let them sit in water to near the top of the pot for about 1/2 hr. If you have a filter and use water from the tap then use that water. If you have a water softener that uses salt, I wouldn't be using tap water unless the filter removes all the salts. Make sure you divide the amount of K-L-N to be correct for the smaller amount of water you are using.
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Alright, I'll give that a try, thank you! And no, no water softener. Just in an apartment on city water and too skeeved out by that to do anything straight from the tap, lol.
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03-15-2013, 02:42 AM
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White fuzzy bugs that look like silverfish? Mealybugs. Use a pesticide. I've tried natural methods like a mix of rubbing alcohol and it doesn't work.
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03-15-2013, 04:33 PM
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It might be mealies, but it might also be springtails.
As far as I know, springtails are harmless to plants.
Now that you know the possibilities of what this "bug" is, you could try to do a Google search to see what they really are.
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