The Phal abuse ends here.
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

The Phal abuse ends here.
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register The Phal abuse ends here. Members The Phal abuse ends here. The Phal abuse ends here. Today's PostsThe Phal abuse ends here. The Phal abuse ends here. The Phal abuse ends here.
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 3 votes, 3.33 average. Display Modes
  #171  
Old 09-11-2011, 07:53 PM
alley alley is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2011
Zone: 6b
Location: Wytheville VA
Posts: 22
The Phal abuse ends here. Female
Default

Should I keep the orchids under the lights after they have bloomed?
  #172  
Old 09-11-2011, 08:49 PM
fotofashion fotofashion is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Zone: 9a
Location: Texas Gulf Coast east of Houston
Posts: 773
The Phal abuse ends here. Female
Default The Phal abuse ends here

Only if you want them to bloom again.
Beverly A.
Post Thanks / Like - 3 Likes
Likes silken, Lana, Chemtiger liked this post
  #173  
Old 09-11-2011, 10:56 PM
Merlyn Merlyn is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jul 2008
Zone: 7a
Location: Maryland
Age: 77
Posts: 1,433
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by silken View Post
I do what Chryss does only with mostly T5's. 12 hours in winter and around 15 hours in spring and summer.
Dumb question, but did you start with T8s or T12s ? And, if so here's the dumb one, did you notice a difference with the T5s ?
  #174  
Old 09-11-2011, 11:09 PM
silken silken is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Feb 2009
Zone: 2b
Location: Saskatchewan, Canada
Posts: 9,667
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Merlyn View Post
Dumb question, but did you start with T8s or T12s ? And, if so here's the dumb one, did you notice a difference with the T5s ?
Not so dumb! I had T12's. It was the old metal canopy that had 4 4ft. tubes in it. I left two in the center and then mounted a 4 ft T5 on each of the outer edges to replace the 2 outer T12's. I didn't pay a lot of attention but I do think it is more lumens or whatever. I have had cattleyas bloom under it, but also keep several paphs in the centre, where the t12's are. The Paph. Deperle seems happy and has bloomed for me after moving it to that spot. It must like more light than most. they say the HO (high output) T5's which I have, are about double what a t12 puts out. They are so small and lightweight-very nice!
  #175  
Old 09-12-2011, 02:14 AM
Merlyn Merlyn is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jul 2008
Zone: 7a
Location: Maryland
Age: 77
Posts: 1,433
Default

You must have bought 2 single T5 fixtures because T5 bulbs won't fit in T8 or T12 fixtures. The T5 prongs are closer together than the T5 and T12 which are 1/2" apart. You can put T8s in a T12 fixture but they may or may not work, if the ballast is for only T12s. The ballast can be replaced for $15 or $20 (I forget which) at Home Depot and you can use the same bulb holders (inotherwords you DON'T have to buy a new T8 fixture). I've done a lot of converting old T12 fixtures to T8, but I'm an electrician which helps !!!

T5 technology is similar in marketing intent to what the audio cassette did to the 8-track. To use the cassette you had to buy a cassette player because it wouldn't play in the 8-track !!! That's, of course, if any of you on this forum know what an 8-track was !!! LOL !!! The T5 IS BETTER, MORE EFFICIENT TECHNOLOGY but it WILL cost you more on your electric bill. A 4 bulb 4 Foot T5 fixture will spend 208 watts and a 4x4 T8 is 128 watts, do the math. You WILL get more lumens from the T5s but they ARE less financially efficient if you're looking at cost per hour alone, but who does ?? NOT me !!! As soon as I can afford the fixtures they all will slowly be replaced with T5s.

Hope that helps !
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes Chemtiger liked this post
  #176  
Old 09-12-2011, 02:59 AM
silken silken is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Feb 2009
Zone: 2b
Location: Saskatchewan, Canada
Posts: 9,667
Default

You're correct, they are individual T5 fixtures. They don't connect in any way to the T12 ballasts. Using two screws, I just mounted the entire slim, lightweight T5 fixture to the metal canopy close to the positions where the two outer T12 bulbs used to be. The T5 fixtures can connect together so that you only need one electrical connection for multiple fixtures. They come with the short connection cords to do it. I find them very handy and so much smaller and convenient than the old T12's. I agree that T8's are a good economical way to go. It seems the fixtures and bulbs are a lot cheaper than the T5's. And yes, I certainly know what an 8-track player is
Post Thanks / Like - 3 Likes
Likes Merlyn, Island Girl, Chemtiger liked this post
  #177  
Old 09-12-2011, 10:27 AM
RosieC RosieC is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jul 2008
Zone: 8a
Location: West Midlands, UK
Age: 49
Posts: 25,462
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rwj5279955 View Post
Question, after the plant spikes, can temps be returned to room temp? Or do they need continued low nights to keep the spike growing?
It only needs to be low to start the spike. Once started it can be grown as normal.
Post Thanks / Like - 3 Likes
Likes rwj5279955, Merlyn, Chemtiger liked this post
  #178  
Old 09-12-2011, 03:54 PM
rwj5279955 rwj5279955 is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6
The Phal abuse ends here.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RosieC View Post
It only needs to be low to start the spike. Once started it can be grown as normal.
Thanks so much. I'm focusing all my growing time to Orchids as of this past summer. I have been growing for a couple of years, with relative success outdoors until the temps drop too low. I am moving them all into a small 6' high x 4' long by 2' deep portable greenhouse which I fitted with fixtures for CFL bulbs, a 207 cfm muffin fan for intake and various other pieces of equipment. It seems environment is everything regarding Orchids.

Last edited by rwj5279955; 09-12-2011 at 05:01 PM..
  #179  
Old 09-13-2011, 11:08 AM
alley alley is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2011
Zone: 6b
Location: Wytheville VA
Posts: 22
The Phal abuse ends here. Female
Default

About how far away should I place the plants from the actual fixture? Same as with sun? Thanks!!!!

Last edited by alley; 09-13-2011 at 11:10 AM..
  #180  
Old 09-13-2011, 11:11 AM
alley alley is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2011
Zone: 6b
Location: Wytheville VA
Posts: 22
The Phal abuse ends here. Female
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fotofashion View Post
Only if you want them to bloom again.
Beverly A.
I love it here....
That's so funny....but, Beverly, I mean, while in bloom, is it ok, for them to be under the lights then too? Thanks!
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Tags
genus, orchid, phalaenopsis, post, thread, abuse, phal


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The S/H list ScottMcC Semi-Hydroponic Culture 44 11-16-2020 09:47 AM
OMG! What a JOB!! Finally made my Chid list! Jkelee Orchid Lounge 28 02-05-2011 08:49 PM
building my phal collection dennis Hybrids 15 11-18-2010 04:33 AM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:42 PM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.