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Old 02-21-2011, 06:53 PM
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Hi there! I am new to the board. I am in love with Orchids but don't know too much about them, just general upkeep. I have 4. I just bought two from BJ's and they are HUGE. Bigger then I have ever seen before. My Phal on the left I have had for over a year, and the one on the right is my new one. What makes them so different? Are they different types of Phals, is the bigger one older than my original Phal? I was just in shock at how small mine is compared to the new one. That and the pedals are a different shape. A little insight is greatly appreciated!

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Your smaller one looks like it is peloric, which is a genetic mutation that causes the flowers' lips to look like its petals. They can be really unique-looking, and very pretty!
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Your smaller one looks like it is peloric, which is a genetic mutation that causes the flowers' lips to look like its petals.
It's actually the other way around...

"...petals to look like lips".

Lips (aka labellum) are modified petals.
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Hi there! I am new to the board. I am in love with Orchids but don't know too much about them, just general upkeep. I have 4. I just bought two from BJ's and they are HUGE. Bigger then I have ever seen before. My Phal on the left I have had for over a year, and the one on the right is my new one. What makes them so different? Are they different types of Phals, is the bigger one older than my original Phal? I was just in shock at how small mine is compared to the new one. That and the pedals are a different shape. A little insight is greatly appreciated!

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Simply put, they're 2 different breeds.

They're both Phalaenopsis, but 2 different complex man-made hybrids with totally different heritages.

The smaller one looks like it has a heavier Phal amboinensis or Phal venosa influence in its genetic line.

The larger one looks like it has a heavier Phal aphrodite or Phal amabilis influence in its genetic line.

Phal amabilis, Phal amboinensis, Phal aphrodite, Phal venosa are all Phalaenopsis species.

If these plants were not named or did not come with a name tag, they're pretty impossible to ID. There are way too many hybrids that look so similar to each other, but have different names that it's difficult to pin-point which plant is connected with which name.

They are beautiful, though.
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As Philip has said they are different heratige within the two hybrids you have.

Phals can vary a lot the ones you see in the supermarket may be different sizes and different colours, but once you look at some of the more specialist hybrids and at the species phals a whole new world opens up of different flower shape and textures you just don't see in the supermarkets (well in the UK you don't anyway).

Take a look at some of the pictures in the Phal Species section... I'm sure you will fall in love
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Would you mind sending me the link? I am still trying to navigate the site and can't find it! lol Thanks!
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