Want to know the name of this orchid.

[caoquendo]

Well... I posted a similar thread and I'll be posting (asking) more because I'm new collecting orchids. So I need to learn somehow...

I'll be posting photos of the orchids I have without name, just to know their name and put an identification tag. To avoid repetitions.

Thanks for all the help..!
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So... if anyone knows the name of this beauty, I'll appreciate it.

[PaphMadMan]

Probably a Dendrobium kingianum hybrid.

[WhiteRabbit]

the canes don't look like kingianum to me ...
idk ?
can you post a pic of the plant/

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

Can't be Den kingianum or any of it's hybrids.

1. Den kingianum has multiple small 1/4" flowers per raceme.

The plant in the photo only has one large flower per inflorescence.

2. The color scheme is not the same, alba form or not.

3. The shape of the lip is not the same (the one in the photo has a large and ornate lip, which Den kingianum doesn't have).

4. Shape of the callus is not remotely close to those of Den kingianum.

5. The large side lobes of the lip to the Den in the photo are pronounced and flare out.

Whereas Den kingianum has side lobes that do not flare out at all.

6. The overall flower shape is not the same as Den kingianum either.

7. The plant in the photo has canes that appear to have too many leaves per cane compared to Den kingianum.

8. The leaf shape of Den kingianum doesn't match with the leaf shape of the Den in the photo.

- Den kingianum has lanceolate shaped leaves.

- The Den in the photo is closer to having oblong shaped leaves.

9. The canes of Den kingianum typically are more bulbous on the bottom and taper towards the top.

The canes of the plant in the photo do not appear to taper.


Hybrids would show some traits belonging to Den kingianum or Den speciosum, along with possibly Den gracilicaule, which the plant in the photo does not express.

[gnathaniel]

Looks like Dendrobium crumenatum or something closely related. Are the flowers fragrant and short-lived, caoquendo?

--Nat

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

I'm guessing that the plant in the photo is quite possibly a species in the same section as Den cruemenatum (section Cruemenata), not Den cruemenatum itself (provided it's a species, of course).

[caoquendo]

The flowers are short-lived. Lives 1 or 2 days max.
Here's a photo when I decided to take care of it. That's why in this photo looks in bad shape. Anyway, I trimmed it a little bit and now is more healthy. I can take another updated photo. I'll post it.

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

Originally Posted by caoquendo

The flowers are short-lived. Lives 1 or 2 days max.
Here's a photo when I decided to take care of it. That's why in this photo looks in bad shape. Anyway, I trimmed it a little bit and now is more healthy. I can take another updated photo. I'll post it.

???

What's wrong with this? It looks perfectly fine.

There are no diseases that I see.

Sure, there're a few leaves with spotting, but it doesn't look bad.

It's huge!

Got plenty of flowers.

There're no alarming number of yellow canes or leaves.

Was there anything that doesn't show in the pic that would've made you believe that it was not healthy to begin with?



Btw, Den kingianum and hybrids have flowers that last longer than a couple days. I forgot how long they actually last. The last blooming season was kinda weak, so I can't depend on how long the current blooms lasted. Can't seem to make up my mind whether Den kingianum has flowers that last a week or 2 wks.

That seals the deal there.

[gnathaniel]

Yep, it's likely a Den. crumenatum. Most of the other plants I've seen in this section (Rhopalanthe or Crumenata) have somewhat more terete or succulent leaves, so this one is pretty distinctive. There are no hybrids of this species registered with RHS, though it's possible there are some natural ones...

I concur with Philip, your plant looks great as is! Don't trim it too much (or at all) because it should rebloom for a while from old flower spikes. I've seen pictures of huge specimens of these totally covered in flowers. Better to let it grow how it wants unless there are obvious signs of disease.

Though the flowers don't last long, the plants make up for it by potentially blooming multiple times throughout the year. Most of the sources I've read indicate that these bloom 9 days following a sudden temperature drop, as occurs with a thunderstorm. If your conditions are right you might get very frequent blooms, so make sure you fertilize regularly (but weakly) to keep the plant from depleting itself. I've got a couple of the smaller species in this section and so far they're very easy growers. Thanks for posting this, caoquendo!

--Nat

[PaphMadMan]

Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:)

Can't be Den kingianum or any of it's hybrids.

1. Den kingianum has multiple small 1/4" flowers per raceme.

The plant in the photo only has one large flower per inflorescence.

2. The color scheme is not the same, alba form or not.

3. The shape of the lip is not the same (the one in the photo has a large and ornate lip, which Den kingianum doesn't have).

4. Shape of the callus is not remotely close to those of Den kingianum.

5. The large side lobes of the lip to the Den in the photo are pronounced and flare out.

Whereas Den kingianum has side lobes that do not flare out at all.

6. The overall flower shape is not the same as Den kingianum either.

7. The plant in the photo has canes that appear to have too many leaves per cane compared to Den kingianum.

8. The leaf shape of Den kingianum doesn't match with the leaf shape of the Den in the photo.

- Den kingianum has lanceolate shaped leaves.

- The Den in the photo is closer to having oblong shaped leaves.

9. The canes of Den kingianum typically are more bulbous on the bottom and taper towards the top.

The canes of the plant in the photo do not appear to taper.


Hybrids would show some traits belonging to Den kingianum or Den speciosum, along with possibly Den gracilicaule, which the plant in the photo does not express.

Based on the appearance of the flower alone, as shown in the photo, it could have been a kinginaum hybrid. If I had seen a more informative picture, or had the other supporting information you have provided now, I would not have wasted your time. You can rest assured that I will not attempt an identification of any additional unknowns you may post.