What Does Dtps. mean?

[CaptFrank]

I purchased two Phal looking orchids. Dtps. Taida Salu "M-P0247" and Dtps. Mount Lip "M-P0527"

Is Dtps. a hybrid or cross with a Den. & Phal.?

[ronaldhanko]

Doritaenopsis is a hybrid of Doritis and Phalaenopsis.

[Norton]

It stands for Doritaenopsis. I believe it is a mix of Doritis and Phalaenopsis. Grow it as you would a Phal.

[trdyl]

It's an abbrevition for Doritaenopsis which is a hybrid between Doritis and Phalaenopsis.

[RosieC]

I will just add to the above, so say that Doritis has been reclasified as Phalaenopsis, which means that really all Doritanopsis are also clasified as Phals now.

I've seen plants labled as Doritanopsis in some places and Phalaenopsis in other places, if they contain any Doritis then then both names are generally considered valid.

[LadySoren]

What is Doritis? (Auto correct wants to say Doritos. Lol)
I understand they're all phals now? What was the "difference" before?

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

Originally Posted by LadySoren

What is Doritis? (Auto correct wants to say Doritos. Lol)
I understand they're all phals now? What was the "difference" before?

Doritos...

Before the absorbing of Doritis into Phalaenopsis, there were only a few species of Doritis.

Most notable of the species was Phalaenopsis (Doritis) pulcherrima.

I'm not familiar with the other 2 species - Phalaenopsis (Doritis) buyssoniana and Phalaenopsis (Doritis) regnieriana, so I will only speak of what I know; which would be - Phalaenopsis (Doritis) pulcherrima.

Before plants in the genus Doritis got combined into the genus Phalaenopsis, due to DNA analysis that supports that Doritis are Phalaenopsis, there were no known Phals that grew upright.

Well...Phalaenopsis (Doritis) pulcherrima naturally grows upright. So that used to be one difference.

Because Phalaenopsis (Doritis) pulcherrima grew upright, they also held their leaves out horizontally instead of flopping over.

Phalaenopsis (Doritis) pulcherrima was also a lithophyte, growing on limestone outcrops and cliffs.

Photo evidence of the 3 previously mentioned characteristics of Phalaenopsis (Doritis) pulcherrima:

http://a402.idata.over-blog.com/3/75...cherrima_2.jpg

The flowers of Phalaenopsis (Doritis) pulcherrima looked a little different from the flowers of species that were often then classified as Phalaenopsis. The flowers looked closer to what Kingidium flowers looked like, particularly Phalaenopsis deliciosa/Kingidium deliciosum - (Kingidium is another genus that was recently absorbed into the genus Phalaenopsis as well). But the plants vegetatively didn't look like Kingidiums either.

Vegetatively Kingidiums looked a lot like Phalaenopsis, but florally looked much different.

Here's what I mean:

http://www.orchidspecies.com/orphotd...ldeliciosa.jpg

Notice when you compare the photos of Phalaenopsis (Doritis) pulcherrima and Phalaenopsis deliciosa/Kingidium deliciosum, vegetatively they looked different enough from each other that taxonomists didn't lump Doritis with Kingidium and vice versa.

To understand what I mean about the flowers of Doritis looking like flowers of Kingidium, here're links to photos of all species that were previously classified under the genus Doritis:

IOSPE PHOTOS

IOSPE PHOTOS

IOSPE PHOTOS

Now, here's a pic of a flower from Phalaenopsis deliciosa/Kingidium deliciosum:

Kingidium Deliciosum 1 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

You must understand that before the advent of DNA analysis for taxonomy, taxonomists classified plants based on morphological, (aka physical), features. Particularly, morphological [physical] features of the plant's flowers.

[LadySoren]

THANK YOU!!
Such a great explanation.
I love the life sciences... <3
I knew plants and animals were put into categories based on what you could see (originally) so I figured there had to be some kind of difference at some point.

Now that you mention it, I do believe this Phal is slightly smaller than the "big" ones. I only have 2 "minis" besides so it's "big" to me. Lol

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PS. Thank you for the visuals

[LadySoren]

Oh oops, someone mentioned on another thread about the smaller than regular phals thing. Ignore that part.

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

Yeah, Doritis are smaller than many of the man-made hybrid Phals out on the market, but I didn't mention size because there are Phals that were always classified as Phals that are pretty small and stay small.

Phalaenopsis equestris is a pretty small Phal.

Phal lindenii is another one.

Phal appendiculata are pretty small.

Phal thailandica, (aka what used to be commonly known as Phal gibbosa), these are miniature Phals.

I think there is a true Phal gibbosa as well, not sure. Again, if there were true Phal gibbosa orchids that are not Phal thailandica, then this would also be a mini-Phal.

Phal lowii are pretty small too.

I can name quite a few, but I'll end it at this.