What are the reasons to underpot?
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

What are the reasons to underpot?
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register What are the reasons to underpot? Members What are the reasons to underpot? What are the reasons to underpot? Today's PostsWhat are the reasons to underpot? What are the reasons to underpot? What are the reasons to underpot?
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-19-2010, 04:51 AM
Carlos Carlos is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: London
Age: 40
Posts: 23
What are the reasons to underpot? Male
Question What are the reasons to underpot?

Hi everyone,
just like the title says, why? as far as I can uderstand from browsing these forums is mostly because if you overpot you will most likely have root rot as the medium will take longer to dry out inbetween watering especially in the middle of the pot. Those that are experts with orchids wont have a problem with this (believe me, this is not my case ). Some say because some orchids like to have the roots tightly but having looked at most orchids habitat, i am mostly thinking Phal. their roots are spread across the trunk of the trees and therefore very spread out. Is there something i dont know that the expert know?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-19-2010, 07:12 AM
orchidsamore orchidsamore is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2009
Zone: 9a
Location: Fort myers Florida
Posts: 555
What are the reasons to underpot? Male
Default

You are correct about the plants in the wild, but what you do not see is the plants are much older.

When roots are pot bound the plant flowers much younger. You can over pot and still grow a good plant and flower it but it will take much longer.

It is easier to over water a pot with too much area but you can stop this with less watering or the use of more charcoal in your pots. The Charcoal holds almost no water,

I move overgrown 6 inch pots to 12 inch baskets with large charcoal filling the empty corners.(wood charcoal from barbecue supply). They continue to bloom as if they were never moved.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-19-2010, 08:18 AM
Carlos Carlos is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: London
Age: 40
Posts: 23
What are the reasons to underpot? Male
Default

Thanks reason I asked is because I have a glass vase which i was think of planting 2 or 3 Phals. I already have holes in this vase and I was thinking about the middle would be maybe to damp so I am planning in putting together a few peanut foam things and using something like a toothpick and build a pyramid out of them and put it at the bottom of the vase creating almost a hollow middle but the charcoal is also a good idea.

I was worried about the size thou because this will be much bigger than the pot I have them in at the moment.
When it complete I will take some photos and upload them
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-19-2010, 11:01 AM
nutgirl nutgirl is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: chico, ca
Posts: 706
Default

Another thing that works well if you are using a large container is to invert a net pot in the bottom before you plant. It takes up space and allows more drainage and air circulation.

I've used modified strawberry baskets when I didn't have the net pots.

Maureen
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-19-2010, 01:11 PM
trdyl trdyl is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Zone: 6a
Member of:TVOS, AOS, FSoA
Location: Mountain Home, Idaho
Age: 58
Posts: 3,387
What are the reasons to underpot? Male
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nutgirl View Post
Another thing that works well if you are using a large container is to invert a net pot in the bottom before you plant. It takes up space and allows more drainage and air circulation.

I've used modified strawberry baskets when I didn't have the net pots.

Maureen
Great tip Maureen. I never thought of that.

I have used syrofoam peanuts in the past tho for large potted Phals in sphagnum moss.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-19-2010, 02:47 PM
nutgirl nutgirl is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: chico, ca
Posts: 706
Default

Peanuts work too but I like to dunk my plants and the styrofoam always floated up disturbing everything.

I had a large Beallara that I did this to. After a year I unpotted to check things and the open space was full of happy roots. Lots of air and moisture I guess.

Maureen
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-21-2010, 12:21 AM
SOS SOS is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Zone: 9b
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 387
What are the reasons to underpot? Male
Default

Besides roots not being able to uptake all the moisture, some plants often bloom better outside the pot. Point in case, C. walkeriana. Underpotting them allows them to grow over the pot, while everything inside the pot offers, the extra moisture.

Last edited by SOS; 01-21-2010 at 12:24 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-21-2010, 04:29 AM
Carlos Carlos is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: London
Age: 40
Posts: 23
What are the reasons to underpot? Male
Thumbs up

thanks, so the reason to underpot is not one that we could say "THATS SO WRONG, YOU GOING TO KILL IT" but more of guide line for beginners and easy maintenance.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SOS View Post
Besides roots not being able to uptake all the moisture, some plants often bloom better outside the pot. Point in case, C. walkeriana. Underpotting them allows them to grow over the pot, while everything inside the pot offers, the extra moisture.
and it also does have it benefits for some plants.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-21-2010, 08:47 AM
trdyl trdyl is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Zone: 6a
Member of:TVOS, AOS, FSoA
Location: Mountain Home, Idaho
Age: 58
Posts: 3,387
What are the reasons to underpot? Male
Default

Another thing to keep in mind the longer organic mediums stay wet the faster it breaks down turing in to mush. Epiphytes such as Phalaenopsis, Cattleya, Oncidium need their roots to be able to breath. As the medium turns to mush, they sufficate and die.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
orchids, roll, roots, spread, tightly, underpot, reasons


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:07 AM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.