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Old 01-06-2010, 01:52 AM
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well i have found a new obsession..........so i found myself buying some orchids....not one but 4.....

my question would be if i have my orchids on a dresser beside an aquarium, would that be sufficient light to the leaves...the room also has the blinds open during the day for added light....now with the aquarium giving off moisture, would that help with the humidity for them?

Should i move them to a different location?

I have replanted them in a vase like container which has river rock on the bottom, a layer of fine bark, then a layer of moss to hold the plant in place....

i am watering with room temperature as not to shock the plant...

now i am also wondering if i can mist the leaves or is this a no no?

thank you!
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1. What genus of orchids are you referring to.

2. How bright are the lights over your aquarium?

3. What kind of lights are they?

4. There's not enough info to say much.

Temperature (day/night, seasonal)?

Humidity (if you don't know the %, I recommend getting a meter)?

Did you check the roots?

Photos?

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1. Orchids are Phalaenopsis hybrids.

2. Your aquarium light isn't bright enough.

3. Still don't know the temperature of your growing area. But that's okay. I can tell you the acceptable temperature range.

The acceptable temperature range for Phalaenopsis is 60 F - 90 F (16 C - 32 C). This range is good throughout the year and between day and night.

4. Those glass boxes have no drainage. Not good.

Here's why:

5. Phalaenopsis is an epiphytical orchid. They grow on trees.

6. Here's a link to some pics of them in the wild so you can have a point of reference:

Phalaenopsis in situ - Flickr: Search

Notice how they're growing in a tropical Asian swamp forest on the wet trunks or branches of small to medium sized trees that contain little to no moss. If I may also direct your attention to how they're positioned horizontally or pendulously on the trunk or branch.

7. Phalaenopsis have roots that breathe. Proper and sufficient air circulation around the roots is important. If it is not provided, the orchids' roots can suffocate and die.

8. Nice idea with the glass box. It does give the roots the opportunity to photosynthesize. Phalaenopsis have roots that are capable of performing photosynthesis, hence they're green when you water them and have green root tips. You also get to be able to see the roots.

Unfortunately...

Like I said, it doesn't have drainage and will suffocate the roots, eventually causing them to rot and die.

9. As you can see in the pics of them in the wild, Phals don't grow upright, but rather horizontally or pendulously. The reason is...when it rains, water can dribble away from the crown and avoid such problems as crown rot.

When grown upright, water has a greater chance of entering the crown and getting trapped inside, thus making a Phalaenopsis very susceptible to problems like crown rot.

10. Having your plants around the aquarium will most likely not make much of a difference in humidity.

An acceptable range of relative humidity (humidity for short) is 60% - 100%.

The higher the humidity, the less you have to water.

11. They grow in shade or bright shade.

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This is out of the realm of orchids and into my other hobby, tropical fish...

If I may...

May I suggest that the lights on the aquarium be shut off at around dusk?

1. Lowers electricity bill.

2. Prevents algae from building up too quickly.

3. Gives your fish some time to sleep.

Just a suggestion...

Your fish might love you for it and live a long and healthy life.

What is it? A Kissing Gourami? Or Albino Black Skirt Tetra?

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I forgot...

Back to your 4 Phalaenopsis.

The crown faces the light source. The leaf tips point towards the ground.

Room temperature water is fine. No ice water. Ice water bad.

Misting isn't necessary.

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This is out of the realm of orchids and into my other hobby tropical fish...

If I may...

May I suggest that the lights on the aquarium be shut off at around dusk?

1. Lowers electricity bill.

2. Prevents algae from building up too quickly.

3. Gives your fish some time to sleep.

Just a suggestion...

Your fish might love you for it and live a long and healthy life.

What is it? A Kissing Gourami? Or Albino Black Skirt Tetra?

thank you for your concern on my tank....
my lights are on for 12 hours a day on a timer...
i havent had any problems with algae in this set up..i have recently enlarged my tank...hence the lack of plants....i am redecorating so to speak.....
i thank you for your input!
OH and its a marble angelfish....
this is what my tank looked like before the upgrade...it was a 16 gallon...i now have a 36....
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as for the Phals....
after watering and letting them soak i drain the excess water from the bottom of the "vase" as to not let them be sitting in water....
the moss on the top is not packed in as to let breathing room...
should i be repotting them?
and as for lettting them be horizontal how do i approach this?
i am kind of hahaha "stumped" ....sorry....i had a moment! lol...
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Cool beans.

They're beautiful.
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i am kind of hahaha "stumped" ....sorry....i had a moment! lol...


Moment shared. Silly, but whatever.

Anywhoo...

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as for the Phals....
after watering and letting them soak i drain the excess water from the bottom of the "vase" as to not let them be sitting in water....
the moss on the top is not packed in as to let breathing room...
should i be repotting them?
and as for lettting them be horizontal how do i approach this?
I think it's best to repot them into a pot with actual drainage holes. I don't know many people who were successful in the long run with Phals with those glass boxes.

Notice how the roots are exposed to air.

I think it's something to consider...

There are clear plastic pots available, I just wouldn't know where you'd be able to get them in Canada. These clear plastic pots usually have tons of drainage slots.

As for laying the plant horizontally, do your best to lean the leaves against the edge of the pot. The plant will do the rest as it gets larger.
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well i will try my best to find a sutable pot...thats not only appealing but functional...
and as for the being horizontal...not trying to sound dumb...but your refering to the leaves? pretty much laying flat? as i have done nothing to perch them up...i hope i am getting what you are trying to to tell me...sorry ....
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