those gnarly root balls like the original pic mirrored my miltonia. the same as others I did find a piece of that floral foam soaking wet stuffed up inside the void..Hes all better now and thanks for the tip on why not to stuff anything up in the voids f there isnt any rootstock. I cut away most of the root mass as it was dead and smelly. Then dipped the left overs in Root hormone and re-pot in some fresh moss...we see how he do in a few weeks ... good stuff