Haver many orchid fertilize emphazie to be urea-free?
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

Haver many orchid fertilize emphazie to be urea-free?
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register Haver many orchid fertilize emphazie to be urea-free? Members Haver many orchid fertilize emphazie to be urea-free? Haver many orchid fertilize emphazie to be urea-free? Today's PostsHaver many orchid fertilize emphazie to be urea-free? Haver many orchid fertilize emphazie to be urea-free? Haver many orchid fertilize emphazie to be urea-free?
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-26-2009, 03:42 AM
Louis_C Louis_C is offline
Member
 

Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 54
Haver many orchid fertilize emphazie to be urea-free?
Default Haver many orchid fertilize emphazie to be urea-free?

I saw so many fertilizer emphasize to be urea-free. In Grow-More orchid ferilizer have both urea and urea-free fertilizer. What role of urea play in the world of orchid. Dose it cause any damage.drawback to orchid?

Thank you
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-26-2009, 09:52 AM
King_of_orchid_growing:)'s Avatar
King_of_orchid_growing:) King_of_orchid_growing:) is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Zone: 9a
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 9,311
Default

Many sources cite the advantages and disadvantages of using urea on orchids and other plants.

For simplicity's sake, urea needs soil microbes to break it down to a nitrogen source that epiphytes can use. pH also affects the bio-availability of urea based nitrogen as well.

However...

Apparently, Phalaenopsis can directly utilize urea based nitrogen into their roots. There was scientific research done on this and an article written about it. You can google scholar it and be the judge of what you think about the outcome of this particular subject.

There's plenty of stuff written about this. Just peruse the myriad of peer reviewed scientific articles or whatever kinds of growing guides about orchids there are on the web.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-26-2009, 03:28 PM
Louis_C Louis_C is offline
Member
 

Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 54
Haver many orchid fertilize emphazie to be urea-free?
Default

I heard that urea take a year to breakdown. They told me it better to use as a foliage fertilizer.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-27-2009, 10:38 AM
King_of_orchid_growing:)'s Avatar
King_of_orchid_growing:) King_of_orchid_growing:) is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Zone: 9a
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 9,311
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis_C View Post
I heard that urea take a year to breakdown. They told me it better to use as a foliage fertilizer.
One year seems pretty long...

Here are some articles:

Fertilizer Urea

Agriculture: Urea Fertilizer in Crop Production

Keep in mind, they're talking about the length of time it takes for urea to break down under certain conditions in soil.

If your orchid is not grown in soil (most orchids commonly sold are epiphytes, although there are actually quite a few terrestrial/semi-terrestrial orchids as well), then urea nitrogen doesn't start breaking down. Therefore, it just washes away by the time you water your orchids.

Maybe the person who told you that urea based nitrogen in fertilizers can last up to a year is saying this in the context of how long it can stay inert when the conditions for break down are not met.

Ammonia or nitrate based nitrogen is readily used by all orchid genera and species.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-27-2009, 11:37 PM
Jerry Delaney Jerry Delaney is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 606
Default

Quote:
Apparently, Phalaenopsis can directly utilize urea based nitrogen into their roots. There was scientific research done on this and an article written about it. You can google scholar it and be the judge of what you think about the outcome of this particular subject.
I just wondered if you were referring to an article a number of years ago by Fred Bergman? I haven't used urea containing fertilizer for a number of years. I still wonder King, just what %age of orchids over the years were, and still are, grown using Peters 30-10-10 where the vast majority of the nitrogen available was in the form of urea.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-29-2009, 09:07 PM
King_of_orchid_growing:)'s Avatar
King_of_orchid_growing:) King_of_orchid_growing:) is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Zone: 9a
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 9,311
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Delaney View Post
I just wondered if you were referring to an article a number of years ago by Fred Bergman? I haven't used urea containing fertilizer for a number of years. I still wonder King, just what %age of orchids over the years were, and still are, grown using Peters 30-10-10 where the vast majority of the nitrogen available was in the form of urea.
No, this article was written by a series of scientists (Martin Trepanier, Marie-Pierre Lamy, and Blanche Dansereau). The title is Phalaenopsis can absorb urea directly through their roots. It was received on June 25, 2008. Accepted November 25, 2008, and published online December 20, 2008.

But Fred Bergman's article in 2002 was cited as a referrence.

As far as the Peters 30-10-10, I don't know. I've adopted using non-urea based fertilizer from growing Bromeliads.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
dose, fertilizer, orchid, urea, urea-free, emphazie, fertilize, haver


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Orchid Nurseries Search Engine epiphyte78 Advanced Discussion 57 04-27-2021 01:21 PM
FREE ORCHID test your knowledge dennis Contests & Polls 52 02-10-2009 01:20 PM
The Black Orchid Graehstone Orchid Lounge 7 12-07-2007 07:56 AM
Oklahoma Orchid Society Show & Sale -11/17 & 18, 2007 Vandagal Orchid Show Announcements 0 11-09-2007 01:25 PM
Virus Free Orchid Seeds DebsC Propagation 4 11-05-2007 12:13 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:43 AM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.