In search of K-L-N

[aber]

Hi everyone, as per an earlier thread im looking for K-L-N to assist in a recovery. I live in Canada on Vancouver island and no where here, or in Victoria can I find a vendor whom carries the product. Any suggestions of where I can find it, or a orchid supplier in Canada that I could order online from? I think ordering from the US would be to expensive - although prove me wrong please!

Thanks for the help, R

[ezil]

I live in Edmonton and get mine from Paramount orchids is Calgary. Check their web site, they have a lot of Dyna Grow products. It would be easier to go through them, and they're also very helpful.
Good luck

[phearamedusa]

I don't think it's available in Canada. I own a hydroponics store, and have gone thru all my suppliers catalogs and even asked them if they've heard of or can get certain products for me. I usually get the "what is it and it does what" line soon followed by nope.

just read other post about Paramount, going to have to have another go at my suppliers it seems.

[Phalguy]

Originally Posted by phearamedusa

I don't think it's available in Canada. I own a hydroponics store, and have gone thru all my suppliers catalogs and even asked them if they've heard of or can get certain products for me. I usually get the "what is it and it does what" line soon followed by nope.

just read other post about Paramount, going to have to have another go at my suppliers it seems.

Hello!

Yes, the product is available in canada at paramount orchid! This is my supplier !

Check here: http://www.paramountorchids.com/Supplies.htm

Phalguy

[SP2340]

You can also look into Superthrive as an alternative.

[sunbirdx]

Yeah, this is essentially an extremely dilute fertilizer, plus B vitamins and rooting hormone. You might have equal luck with a very diluted balanced fertilizer mixed with rooting hormone (something like Green Light).

[Ray]

Don't think for a minute of K-L-N as a fertilizer.

First and foremost, it is a root growth stimulant (containing both naphthalene acetic acid and indole butyric acid) and B1. The "weak fertilizer" comes from the fact that synthetic hormones are delivered by some N-, P-, and K-bearing compounds that enhance their water solubility. The plant nutrients are minuscule "contaminants", not intended ingredients.

The stuff is 0.009% N! If a teaspoon per gallon of a 10% N fertilizer provides 125 ppm N, then a drop per gallon of K-L-N provides only 1.5 ppb.

[sunbirdx]

Right, so if you used an extremely dilute fertilizer solution (a few drops or granules of a balanced fertilizer) plus a synthetic rooting hormone like green light, you might have a similar result, if you couldn't get KLN.

There has been some agro research showing that fertilization plus rooting hormone is the best method for root establishment, and also plenty of research that has shown that thiamine doesn't have much of an effect on plant rooting.

[Ray]

Sorry, sunbird, but you missed the point.

Adding a rooting hormone to a fertilizer solution is not the same as using a rooting hormone that has those ingredients to water. The latter aids solubility, the former does not.

However, if we consider that the amount of fertilizer in K-L-N is almost equivalent to no fertilizer at all, this discussion doesn't really add to anyone's knowledge.

I'll agree with the added help of fertilizer in root establishment, but it plays no role in initiating new root growth, while it is very well established in the literature that thiamine does - although not nearly as good as the synthetic hormones.

[sunbirdx]

I am sorry, I don't think I understand what you are saying in the first statement.

The fertilizer solution will act like an organic solvent, dissolving naphthalene acetic acid, just like it does in the KLN. It is the ammonia products in the fertilizer solution that dissolve the NAA, so adding rooting hormone to a very dilute fertilizer solution should have the same effect as buying a bottle with minuscule amounts of fertilizer and rooting hormone, then adding it to water.

I don't see how my comments don't add to anyone's knowledge. If someone is having issue finding KLN, a dilute balanced fertilizer solution with rooting hormone could be substituted.