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Old 05-19-2009, 10:13 PM
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Camille,

I was using the suffocation explanation to characterize the likely situation with the old medium. The "tailored" cells part was in reference to changing media.
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I was reading through various other threads on here and on another website and I've come across something quite wonderful! Peroxide!

Yes, as in your household, typical, bathroom, antiseptic hydrogen peroxide. I had a phal that become overwatered and it's roots were pretty much green but it had a few that were in between yuck and muck and being vibrant and healthy. I doused it with peroxide (you should've heard it sizzle) and let it drain for twenty minutes. I have let it almost dry back out now and am going to start it back on a regular watering schedule.

It is actually in bloom right now and it seems to be much perkier! I'm not quite sure what the peroxide did - whether it was aeriate the roots or dry the water out of the overwatered ones - but hey! It did something! That's for sure
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Thanks, I've heard before that peroxide is good to get rid of rot. I'm not sure I have any, but probably something I need to get.
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The hydrogen peroxide exists as such in the pot for only a matter of minutes, if that. After that, the extra oxygen will be gone and the rest is plain old water.
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Then there is the potential impact of repotting: root cells grow "tailored" to the conditions they are in and do not change once grown. If your plant was starting to grow roots in a dense, wet medium, the roots would be "designed" for that. Moving them into a different medium means they may not be well-suited to function in that new environment, so the plant will need to grow entirely new roots to accommodate.
Thanks Ray, what you say makes sence. I guess this is why the advice is to report when the plant is already in the process of growing new roots.

But it can be quite sickening when a really healthy plant with a huge root mass ends up as a struggling thing with only the few new roots it's managed to since the move.

My first one lost almost all leaves, almost all roots and took about 8 months before it started to grow more (and it's still in a serious way). It was a fantastic healthy plant before I repotted.

My second one had a medium number of roots, most of which it has lost. No leaf loss yet, but I'm very concerned that it will be able to still get enough water from what is left.

It's too early to say on the third that I reported. It was previously in the most compact medium I have ever seen on an orchid but had masses and masses of healthy roots. So from what you say I am really worried it will loose it's roots now it is in new stuff and go the way of the first.

This third one did have a LOT of new roots tips all over it when I repoted but they seem to have gone a few weeks later (at least I can't see many/any through the side of the pot which look like they are still growing). This really concerns me, because from what you say it NEEDS to grow new roots just now.
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same problem here. So is the solution to repot less densely? Should I let my phal dry out and water sparingly to get new root growth? Advice much appreciated.
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I am certainly no expert and I have my orchids where the relative humidity is usually lower than optimum.
My thoughts on reviviing an ailing phal are:
Low humidity - pot loosely with sphagnum
Higher humidity - pot with bark mixture that was soaked at least 24 hours before use
Use KLN, use very little if any fertilizer while the plant is recovering.
Again, these are my thoughts as this is what works for me.
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In addition, I've noticed molds grow in 2 of my phals in bark which I blame on my water that's high in minerals. As I started watering with RO, the molds went away. Information was found on good 'ole Orchid Board, someone correlated water high in minerals leads to mold! Haven't researched papers to prove it but RO works for me.

have you checked your water quality?
What is r o water? thanks
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RO water is water that is filtered through reverse osmosis. It is a filtration method that gets rid of chemicals and minerals dissolved in the water.
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RO water is Reverse Osmosis water.

Its a technique for purifying water which many people here on OB use. Here is a Wiki link about the process.

Reverse osmosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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