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Rhonda Svoboda 06-28-2020 05:03 PM

Winter rest
 
Hi: here are the orchids in my collection that receive a winter rest:
Laelia tenebrosa
Cycnodes Wine Delight
Oncidium Tsiku Marguerite
I supplement my orchids with grow lights once they come inside for the winter. I live in Michigan so our winters are long.
I generally cut down on fertilizer and water in October-February. I try to time my grow lights according to the natural day length. This is especially true for my spring blooming plants. Cattleya's, etc. I have discovered that having long day length inhbits flowerling. Those orchids that bloom and grow naturally during the winter I seperate from the rest of my orchids

orchitech 06-30-2020 02:58 PM

Cattleyas.
 
There are three cattleyas that need a drastic reduction of water during the winter or the roots will rot in a heartbeat.
C. Acclandiae, C. Violacea, and C. Schilleriana.
I always have read that Dowiana roots will rot if watered in winter, but it is not my case. Those three along with Schrodera are more sensitive in my experience.

Rhonda Svoboda 09-17-2020 05:23 PM

Winter rest
 
Hi CB977:
You talked about watering but not light. Can you expand on that? Do you have a greenhouse?

AU77 07-19-2021 10:52 AM

Winter Rest
 
I have two, I think, that need a winter rest.

Dendrobium nobile Love Memory ‘Fizz’
Dendrobium nobile Red Emperor ‘Prince’

If I am incorrect, please let me know.

estación seca 07-19-2021 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AU77 (Post 962998)
I have two, I think, that need a winter rest.

Dendrobium nobile Love Memory ‘Fizz’
Dendrobium nobile Red Emperor ‘Prince’

If I am incorrect, please let me know.

Take a look here. This is the company that hybridized and introduced your plants:
Yamamoto Dendrobiums: Caring

Yamamoto Dendrobiums: Hints

Winter rest means no fertilizer and less water. They are likely to be severely damaged or even die if you don't water them at all.

Orchidgirl86 08-23-2021 07:53 AM

Hi. I know my dendrobium noble needs a winter rest but does anyone else in my list need a rest too?

Shadeflower 08-23-2021 08:28 AM

Welcome to the forum Orchidgirl, I will just quote the latest good post on this topic since this post has lots of opinions and has evolved

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roberta (Post 887187)
It isn't showing any signs of slowing down, so keep up the watering at the current rate as long as it has flowers. Once the flowers drop, you can cut back the watering somewhat, but unless you see leaves start to yellow, don't push it too hard. First, it's a hybrid, and very likely part of its ancestry doesn't slow down as much as Den. nobile does. Also, it may have had its seasons manipulated with light and temperature to get it to bloom now. (A blooming orchid is worth a lot more than a bare one...) Even the species Den. nobile does not go completely dormant in my experience. When I first started out in orchids I received the advice "no water between Halloween and Valentine's Day" ... and several died before I figured out that this was too severe. I suggest that temperature drop is probably at least as important in inspiring flowers as the dry period. So once it stops blooming, perhaps put it in a sun room or on a windowsill close enough to the glass to feel a chill at night. If it doesn't show signs of blooming in the spring but waits next year until summer or fall, then you know that it has ancestry that includes fall bloomers as well as Den nobile. After a year or so in your care, it will revert to a natural cycle (whatever that may be) no matter what manipulation it may have received this year.


If you analyze what Roberta has posted you shouldn't force a winter rest on the orchid.

They go through a winter rest just by being in the UK!!!

Sun light hours drop, light levels decrease, clouds appear more, temperatures drop. This is what happens in winter and the plant "rests" as a result but like Roberta says they aren't really dormant or resting at all, in fact in this period they are secretly being extremely busy gearing up to flower in spring.

They need to collect the energy to produce flowers very very fast once spring time hits. Cold night temperatures means the orchids don't lose too much energy at night, additional light can be beneficial in the height of winter to help the plant build up energy.

There is a myth that a stressed orchid can flower better. Don't fall for myths.

The main thing to remember is that orchids drink less in winter and colder temperatures can cause fungal infections in too wet conditions so in winter watering should absolutely be adjusted so as not to overwater but don't purposefully let orchids dry out either.

I know there are people that completely disagree with me and get their dendrobiums to flower every year. Like brad's greenhouse on youtube actively encourages months of drying out in winter.

So yes orchids are pretty hardy and can tolerate quite a lot. Now everyone has to experiment and try for themselves. In a cold greenhouse there might be enough condensation forming in winter that no watering is needed even if the orchids are getting water from somewhere.

The one thing i dislike is someone claiming something is the only way to do something without having ever tried an alternative! Lots of things work, some things work better than others.

Always worth remembereing

Orchidgirl86 08-23-2021 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadeflower (Post 965498)
Welcome to the forum Orchidgirl, I will just quote the latest good post on this topic since this post has lots of opinions and has evolved




If you analyze what Roberta has posted you shouldn't force a winter rest on the orchid.

They go through a winter rest just by being in the UK!!!

Sun light hours drop, light levels decrease, clouds appear more, temperatures drop. This is what happens in winter and the plant "rests" as a result but like Roberta says they aren't really dormant or resting at all, in fact in this period they are secretly being extremely busy gearing up to flower in spring.

They need to collect the energy to produce flowers very very fast once spring time hits. Cold night temperatures means the orchids don't lose too much energy at night, additional light can be beneficial in the height of winter to help the plant build up energy.

There is a myth that a stressed orchid can flower better. Don't fall for myths.

The main thing to remember is that orchids drink less in winter and colder temperatures can cause fungal infections in too wet conditions so in winter watering should absolutely be adjusted so as not to overwater but don't purposefully let orchids dry out either.

I know there are people that completely disagree with me and get their dendrobiums to flower every year. Like brad's greenhouse on youtube actively encourages months of drying out in winter.

So yes orchids are pretty hardy and can tolerate quite a lot. Now everyone has to experiment and try for themselves. In a cold greenhouse there might be enough condensation forming in winter that no watering is needed even if the orchids are getting water from somewhere.

The one thing i dislike is someone claiming something is the only way to do something without having ever tried an alternative! Lots of things work, some things work better than others.

Always worth remembereing

Thanks so much for that answer. My nobles didn't reflow this year but threw off alot of keikis. Hopefully I will get some flowers soon 🙈

AdeleDS 10-02-2021 08:59 PM

I've got a small den. nobile Love Memory Fit that I'm told needs winter rest. I'm in Canada; the days are shorter now and the nights are down to about 12 Celsius. I have it out in the day (dappled shade on a south-facing balcony, about 18-20 C.) but I bring it in at night. I'm not sure whether to start cutting back on the watering - because it is still growing new leaves! Any advice is welcome.

Roberta 10-02-2021 09:16 PM

You will be bringing it soon, that will be the time to cut back - but not completely dry. Just water less often (it won't dry out as fast either) and no fertilizer. You might want to put it near a window where it is cool, since I suspect that that cool nights, more than drying out, provides the trigger for spring blooming.


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