Rotting dendrobium -is it too late?
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

Rotting dendrobium -is it too late?
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register Rotting dendrobium -is it too late? Members Rotting dendrobium -is it too late? Rotting dendrobium -is it too late? Today's PostsRotting dendrobium -is it too late? Rotting dendrobium -is it too late? Rotting dendrobium -is it too late?
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-16-2023, 03:42 PM
Tortoise Tortoise is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Feb 2023
Posts: 5
Rotting dendrobium -is it too late?
Default Rotting dendrobium -is it too late?

everyone, I have been trying to grow many orchids for years but ultimately I[IMG][/IMG] end up with root root and lose them. I used to try bark mixes but have since been using some leca as 2 of my dendrobiums were sold to me using this method. One dendrobium Frosty Dawn is looking almost dead and I wonder if there is any glimmer of hope and what I should do to give it the best chance if its even possible to restore it to good health.
Ill attempt to add photos here and thank you

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...rw&oe=63F4406D

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...8A&oe=63F3B127
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-16-2023, 08:21 PM
Roberta's Avatar
Roberta Roberta is offline
Super Moderator
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Zone: 10a
Location: Coastal southern California, USA
Posts: 13,845
Rotting dendrobium -is it too late? Female
Default

First, Welcome!

I think that this Dendrobium can be rescued - it does look like it has 1 good root, which will help in reviving it. To help you save it - and to have more success with other orchids - can you tell us some more about your growing conditions? Things to consider:
temperature (and temperature range)
light
watering - how much and how often?
What type of pot? You do mention LECA, lots of members of the Board use it. But whatever the medium, more important is to look at how it's being used. For most orchids, the goal is "humid air" rather than "wet". Air is the big factor, roots die not so much from too much water, but rather from not enough air.

So, to get beyond the generalities, the more you can share about conditions, the better the odds that someone will be able to help you - there are lots of experienced growers who participate on the Board.
__________________
Orchids teach patience!

Roberta's Orchids (visit my back yard)

See what orchid species are blooming in Southern California(New page for DECEMBER 2024)
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes Toadwally liked this post
  #3  
Old 02-16-2023, 09:07 PM
Tortoise Tortoise is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Feb 2023
Posts: 5
Rotting dendrobium -is it too late?
Default

Thank you for your response
The orchid had been in South West window with overhang
The temperature is often 20-24 decrees Celsius
The pot was plastic and I tried to keep a reservoir of water below the pot so adding water as needed .
It came to me in leca so I'd always grown in leca.
I'm really hoping I can save it its currently not in a pot it's sat by my computer as I wasn't sure what the next steps should be.ive had it a few years so one of my longest lasting orchids as I still make lots of mistakes sadly but I'm very eager to learn more.
I sprayed with peroxide to clean all over.
Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-16-2023, 09:18 PM
Roberta's Avatar
Roberta Roberta is offline
Super Moderator
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Zone: 10a
Location: Coastal southern California, USA
Posts: 13,845
Rotting dendrobium -is it too late? Female
Default

First... most orchids really don't like to sit in water. The way to water them is to pour water though the medium, and let it drain well. That pulls air into the root zone, and flushes out any "crud". The "semi-hydroponic' technique that lots of people use, with great success, does have a small reservoir at the botton of the pot, which has a small hole or two at the side of the pot a bit above the bottom, so that when the container is filled to the top, it then drains - with the same effect of pulling air through the pot., For details on this approach, check out Free Info - Semi-Hydroponics

Peroxide on roots can damage them. So don't do that... just rinse them off. A lot of people have had good luck getting rootless plants to produce more roots using Kelpak . Search the Board using that as the search term and you'll find LOTS of information. Others likely will jump in with more ideas.,

Another note... I would suggest potting up that plant. In the absence of much in the way of roots, you will need to stabilize it so it doesn't wobble - when new roots are starting they are very delicate and any movement can damage them. You can use wood barbecue skewers, or similar sticks, and garden twist-ties to do the job.,
__________________
Orchids teach patience!

Roberta's Orchids (visit my back yard)

See what orchid species are blooming in Southern California(New page for DECEMBER 2024)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-16-2023, 09:57 PM
Tortoise Tortoise is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Feb 2023
Posts: 5
Rotting dendrobium -is it too late?
Default

The water level would have been 25% up the pot at most
I do actually have a bottle of that kelpak here so that's great to know thanks.
So I'll pot it back into leca and use the fertilizer in the water?
I'll be sure to read about the uses of thd fertilizer too on the forum.
Thanks for the advice I'm very grateful to get some help and hopefully the orchid will survive me.
Thank you 😊
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-16-2023, 10:40 PM
Toadwally Toadwally is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 165
Rotting dendrobium -is it too late? Male
Default

Along the lines of the principles Roberta laid out for her advice, perhaps consider a heavy misting of kelpak followed by resting the plat atop moistened NZ sphag in a clear plastic bag where it can receive light (less than typical) and warmth. Two weeks later, spray again and return to its plastic recovery room. I suggest this for the added benefit of watching roots' responces.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-16-2023, 11:24 PM
Tortoise Tortoise is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Feb 2023
Posts: 5
Rotting dendrobium -is it too late?
Default

Thank you very much
I will certainly try this out
I appreciate the help and I'll be sure to update 🙂
Thanks again
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 2 Likes
Likes Toadwally, Roberta liked this post
  #8  
Old 02-17-2023, 10:10 PM
estación seca's Avatar
estación seca estación seca is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2015
Zone: 9b
Location: Phoenix AZ - Lower Sonoran Desert
Posts: 18,645
Rotting dendrobium -is it too late? Male
Default

My experience has been Dens in section Latouria should never dry out. I think it is extremely unlikely it had root rot from inadequate air circulation; the air spaces in LECA are so large. I think your plant has been too dry for too long. If your plant had a relatively shallow root system the water may not have risen to the level of the roots, even if the bottom of the LECA was in water. When I move plants into LECA I must be careful the roots are truly staying moist between waterings. I often need to water from the top almost every day for some weeks or months, before the roots grow into the moist zone.

To save this plant I would put it inside an enclosed space like a large jar or terrarium, to keep the relative humidity high. Set it on barely damp sphagnum, not wet sphagnum. Try to keep it 25-30C if you can. Root growth will be triggered by high relative humidity and warmth, not by watering. Treating with Kelpack, a root stimulant, will help. There are no roots so there is no reason to use fertilizer now.
__________________
May the bridges I've burned light my way.

Weather forecast for my neighborhood
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-17-2023, 10:47 PM
Tortoise Tortoise is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Feb 2023
Posts: 5
Rotting dendrobium -is it too late?
Default

Thank you very much I just placed it in a large glass jar on barely moist spaghnum moss with lid closed but very slightly ajar?
Assuming we need a little airflow?
Thanks so much everyone here is so helpful ☺️
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
dawn, dead, dendrobium, glimmer, root


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Late spring blooms in the courtyard SaraJean Orchids in Bloom 12 06-14-2020 01:29 PM
Finished an inventory of my orchids. Kevin_PR Outdoor Gardening 23 03-03-2015 05:40 PM
nobile vs nobile type! 801229001 Beginner Discussion 2 01-18-2015 08:45 PM
Dendrobium Dormancy Questions scy Beginner Discussion 3 10-19-2011 12:35 AM
Some Dendrobium Species Photos. amostkt Dendrobium Alliance 6 01-09-2009 08:10 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:17 PM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.